Hi Master, I have been told that my DM element is weak, but your website says i am strong earth...someone explained that because mainly Iwas born in autumn.. what do you think of this? Here is my bazi, and below is his explanation: http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/sassywf/linda.jpg This chart belongs to the Hurting Officer structure (ShangGuan Ge). Born in the month of autumn, the metal is strong. For easy reference, the strength of each elements during autumn are as follow: Metal (Prosperous), Wood (Dead), Water (Born), Fire (Trap) & Earth (Retreat) Looking at each of the pillars: Year: Bing fire sitting on Chen earth (water storage) - Bing fire is weak Month: Ding fire sitting on You metal (strong metal) - Ding fire is weak Day: Xu earth (DM) sitting on Chen earth - in the month of You metal, earth has retreated but the two earth are supporting each other. Hour: Jia wood sitting on Yin wood - in the month of You metal, wood is dead, but the two wood are supporting each other. For the day and hour pillars, we can also said that the Xu earth and Jia wood are rooted. Looking at the EBs, the two Chen earth are producing the You metal, making the metal even stronger (note: to avoid confusion, I shall not go into whether the Chen-You combo will be successful or not). Looking at the whole chart, the retreated earth elements are producing the already strong You metal, and thus, the earth elements are considered to be weak (i.e overly-exerted). Even though the earth can gain strength from the wood+fire (i.e. wood produces fire and fire produces earth), but the wood and fire are not strong either. In this chart, we need wood and fire to curb the strength of the metal. Which throws off everything that i believe from looking at your chart.