Robert Lee

Dear Ng Chiew Kiat, I believe you are trying to ask whether you can just enter the date of birth of the club in the ba zi report, am I right? Well, not really. The ba zi is for pesonal luck, you cannot use it in the same way for the establishment of a business or club. Though, it was a really good way of looking at it. But it will not work that way. You can only assess the feng shui but not the luck of the business/club/establishment. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Norman, Norman Leonor wrote: I have a mirror 4feet by 4 1/2 feet standing infront my stairs upstairs.. Does this mirror have any effect on us and for the good chi or bad chi? Generally, it is not a good idea to have a mirror just at the stairs, simply because it can be a shock for people to see themselves when theyreach the top. Especially for those who are not aware that it is there. Furthermore, mirror if placed in bad sector, can sometimes bounce/create twice the bad luck. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: Could not find any discussion on traveling in different directions and how that effects us. Specifically traveling to country or a city which is in direction of ones death direction. Generally, most people do use this travelling information in this way. I mean to get from one place to another by car or plan, there can only be a certain direction you can travel. So if you follow it strictly like South is Death, that means you completely avoid South. But what if South is the only way to get to your destination? So this is not practical and that is why you do not see anyone following this strictly by the book. Furthermore, for the Eight House direction such as Death or Diaster or any of the 4 good and bad direction. It is used more for permanent placement for desk/office/bed etc and used more commonly in micro level (ie smaller scale application within the room or office. We do not use it in the macro level like travelling. Even in the Ba Zi element and direction. Say you are a weak Wood person, and Water element (North is better). It will denote that staying say in the Northern country in the World map would be better than say staying in Southern country in the World map. Or say in Singapore. Staying in North (ie Yishun) might be better than say South (City). This is what most people use the direction. Anonymous wrote: For instance, if one is traveling to a country or a city which is south east from the point of departure and south east direction happens to be one's death direction, shold one do something to prevent negative influences. Anonymous wrote: Also are there any rules onspending time away from home, on birthdays or change of the yearin city or a country which is in ones death direction, relative to home. Like I mentioned, we do not use feng shui this way. At most, some people might pick more auspicious dates before they travel etc. But that is about it. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Chong Karen, Chong Karen wrote: I'm very interest on learning Feng Shui but the thing is I still need to take care of my 2 sons. So can you advice where I can learn more detail of flying Star. Can solve by this website? Where it is? Generally, we offer online learning which you can take your own time to learn from our website. And then you can continue to learn by reading our forum and/or posting questions to clarify your doubts. We have two courses Applied Feng Shui & Flying Star Feng Shui:- URL: http://www.geomancy.net/courses/courses.htm Both of which allows you to learn from your own free time from the comfort of your own home computer. As this forum, has lots of posting each day so for us to read each and every post it may take sometime. Soyou can e-mail us directly at support@geomancy.net should you have more queries on our courses. This will be faster then posting services enquiry via the forum. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Olivia, Olivia Kim wrote: Would you be kind enough to help me with the following? Myfavorable directions are East, SE and N. I need a garageand the only garage available right now is a garage facing East as I am drivingINTO the garage. By the way, does this mean it is WEST facing? Also, the Garage number is 4. In the U.S. it sounds similar to the chinese pronounciation, is this correct? Generally, a garage isn't really part of a house. So it can be built separately or added on, but the entry or direction of the garage will not replace the facing of the house. So it really does not matter if it is not possible to enter into the garage from a good direction. Back to your question, facing of the house or garage should be considered from inside the garage looking outwards. That means if your garage faces East, you drive in to the garage West. This is similiar to a house if your hosue face East,whenyou look outwards from the house it should face East. It does not mean it is West facing just because you drive in from the West. As for the number of the house, how good or bad depends a lot on the individual. Some people have lucky number that is 4, others hate it because it sounds like Death in cantonese. So it really up to the individual. No right or wrong answer for this. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Carlo, Anonymous wrote: Hi, I'm confused about the best sleeping position. In the free reports,thebest sleep position looksdifferent from the best work or study position. So, for sleeping I have to have the best direction for me behind my head when laying down on my bed? It looks like you have to face in the opposite direction. Is this correct? For the other positions (work, study), itlooks like you have to have your head facing towards your best direction. Is this also correct? Yes, sleeping position is where say East is Longevity, your head should point to East and your feed point opposite in the West. This is because you are sleeping so your head should be pointed to the better direction. For study or work position, since you sit upright and work, you work facing your good direction. Thus, if East is your Prosperity, then you sit facing Eastwards, with your back facing West. Anonymous wrote: Sometimes I have bad headaches. Right now I have one, it's almost unbearable that I want to hurry up and finish typing this so that I cango lay down and rest. Would it be better in my case to lie down with my health direction (East)? (actually, in this case my health direction is one of my best sleeping, I'm not sure if that's the case for everyone?).The other best sleeping direction for me is South (longevity). Right now my bed is more aligned with South, to sleep with East I would have to rearrange my bed I think. Yes, this would be recommended if possible. Also, sometimes certain sector has too much Illness and misfortune star (ie star 2/5 under th flying star). This creates too much Earth influence which cause illness. So some way to balance is keep the room in White colour. Other method which employes the use of technology or therapy would be:- ie. Sometimes, headaches can be caused because of blood not flowing properly to your head when you sleep. So a good pillow can help you. Try looking for those Tempur pillow (it can be a expensive), but it is proven to give you a good night rest and because of the material and being able to balance you head properly, it improves your blood circulation in your head.Often, this is onereason for frequent headaches. ie. Other method is some peopletends to relax better or sleep better some some aroma therapy. ie. Of course if you frequently do have headaches, it can also be due to other medical problems which you better seek advise from a doctor to check out and help you. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: a weak yang water person with 4 fire in his four pillars and married to a strong yang wood and having 4 wood element in the chart and havetwo daughter have 3earth element and 1 daughter have 4 earth element in their chart. As wood produce fire, will it be too strong the fire is especially 2006 is year of fire. How to overcome this. Frankly, it is not really correct for you to relate the number of earth element present in someone else chart, to add that to your own chart. It does not work that way. The number of elements in individual person chart, is used to asses whether he is weak or strong person of a particular element. ie if he is a wood person, the number of elements in his chart helps to assess whether he is weak wood or strong wood. When you compare to another person, what is used is the final element and strength of that person ie he is a weak wood rat person. Thus, it will be this weak wood rat person that will be used to compare to yourself. ie a weak wood rat person compared to another strong fire pig person. In your case, a weak water person compared to a Strong Wood person. Then the pairing isn't that good for both party unless there is Metal element to act as a element to harmonise and improve the relationship. This is the solution and not say having too much fire element in the other person individual chart. Individually, his or her element will lack certain element and that is enhanced through having more of certain colour from his clothings etc. That will improvethe missing elements or deities that help a person becomewell-balanced.You can refer to this link for five element and relationship. URL: http://talk.geomancy.net Hope that helps. Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Andrew, Andrew Leon wrote: I am purchasing a conversion condo (an apartment in a building that was built in 1974) but that are doing a full renovation inside (wall painting, new appliances, new kitchen and bathroom furniture, new floor) the apartments to be sold as a condo. Should I take 1974 as house age or should I start from the date of the renovation (2005-2006)? Since there will be quite a lot of renovation work, you should take the start of the renovation (ie period 8 2004-2023) as the new birth chart of the house. Andrew Leon wrote: The condo (it's a two stories (2nd-3rd floor) apartment) main door facesEast (90 degrees), but from the center of the apartment the door is facing South East (115 degress). It also has a small balcony facing North (or North East (from the center). Which one should I considered as the main facing direction? Since it between 2nd-7th level, it is best you take the facing of the house from your main door ie standing inside your house looking outwards. (Provided the door isn't in any odd position). Without seeing the diagram, it can bedifficult for me to confirm, but your facing be taken from your main door ie 90 degree. If you want to confirm, just attach your layout plan with the North direction marking, and I can advise you better which isthe true house facing. Andrew Leon wrote: 115 degree in a Western compass is South East or North West house? I am a little confused with the 'Survey Your Home" Report If you are using a western compass, then the direction of the degree will be the direction of the house. You can create a flying star profile with the degree that you got from your compass reading. 115 Degree falls between 112.5 to 127.4 degree under the 120 SE1. So considered a South-East facing house. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Kit Fong, Kit Fong wrote: Thank for your prompt response. Is the ba zhi and the kua no. the same? They are different concept. Kua (eight house) only assess your YEAR of birth (ie 1950). So it's accuracy is limited. However, though it is simple it's suitability analysis is still very useful. The Kua element will not be as accurate as the Ba Zi element. Ba Zi assess upto day and even time of birth (ie. 19Aug 1950 at7am). So this is more accurate for luck andelement determination. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for AppliedFeng Shui Research

Dear Sophie, sophie corcoran wrote: cecil u have mentioned a 10 day cycle for the different birth elements. Yes, every day has different Heavenly Stem and Earthly Branch combination (ie 60 different unique combinations from the 10 Heavenly Stem and 12 Earthly Branch). So since the Heavenly Stem changes in cycle, it will cycle through the 10 different Heavenly Stem. That is why Cecil mentioned that there is 10-day cycle. sophie corcoran wrote: what is today 22nd nov 2005? You can simply check out theelement from this link:- http://www.geomancy.net/reports/free-report/freerpt-element.htm sophie corcoran wrote: andwhat order does it go in? It should cycle similiar to this:- URL: http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-calendar.htm sophie corcoran wrote: and what do the elements tell us about a person born on that day? Generally, each element has a certain characteristics. However, each ba zi will have different characteristics depending on what ten deities are found in the full ba zi chart. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Richard, Richard Soh wrote: Hi, is it then ok for the dining table to be at the side of the altar table? thanks. As long as it is not facing the dining table directly nor any of the point I listed in my previous posting, then it is no issue, Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Olivia, Anonymous wrote: What are your thoughts on monthly stars vs yearly stars, etc? The reason I ask is because another website states that for example, in the month of November, if you have a front door or office in the West sector,we should place a dragon or a metal wealth pot to enhance wealth/fame/recognition. Whereas, the #8 star is actuallyin the South sector this year.Can you explain this train of thought? I would questionhere onthe practical application of applying feng shuion a Monthly or even worstDaily application. Do most people really have the time and effort towant to apply monthly or even daily flying star changes? Most people will at most practice until the yearlyflying star change, since the effect of the yearly star last for that entire year. But to apply feng shui changes every month just for the slight change inthe luck for that month. Ireally don't think that people shouldfollow feng shuiso strictly by the book. Feng Shui is supposedbe a install and forget type of scenario. ie install the basic changes and cures for the home, then forget about it and carry on with your own life and work. One should not just eat and sleep on every small bit if feng shui error. There is no way that one can have 100% perfection when it comes to feng shui. What is important is fixing all the major problems and then enhancing whatever possible. The rest will depend on your own individual hardwork to attain the necessary success. So it is entirely not practical to have to worry about the monthly and/or daily and/or hourly changes. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research.

Dear Oliv, Oliv Sullivan wrote: If someone was born in a Water year and at a time of day that is Strong Metal, is the Strong Metal considered "bad"? A Strong metal born in a water year, is actually favourable to the Strong Metal as it helps to control his excess metal. A weak metal born in water year will be not as good as a Strong Metal simple because the weak metal will be weakened by the water year. Oliv Sullivan wrote: What happens if they wear gold colored clothingor drive agold colored car versus wear black clothes or drive a black car? This will really depend on whether how much of metal and water element they have in their chart. The goal of feng shui is to attain harmony. That means to have 20% of each element for all the five element. A Strong Metal can be strong because it has lots of Earth, or lots of Metal, or an equal amount of Earth and Metal. If a Strong metal is strong because of lots of Earth and the Metal is lacking (ie So ultimately, really depends on the overall balance in your five element. The more in your favourable and more well balanced your five element in the various areas of your life, the better your overall luck. If you have too much of one element and lacking in another, that is where you will have problems. However, generally for Strong metal person, water element would be generally favourable. So Blue/Black/Gray would bring him generally better luck than gold/white colour car. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Kit Fong, Kit Fong wrote: Thank u for your prompt response and the tips given. I will follow as instructed but I would like to know what do we based on to find whether the house facing the death and disaster will affect the breadwinner of the house. Generally, if both the house facing is Death or Disaster and the direction element isn't favourable to your ba zi. Then we can almost say that the house does not suit the breadwinner. If the bedroom is also unfavourable to the breadwinner. Then, the house will be deemed very unsuitable to the breadwinner. Usually when a house does not suit the breadwinner, he/she may find that especially after they move into the house, lots of things just don't go well for them. The more areas that isn't favourable to a person, the more problems they will face. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Mr Robert & Master Cecil, On behalf of the company, we would like to say a "Big Thank You" for the talk conducted this afternoon at our employees'club house, Palm Club. All the staff attended exceeding the registration 20 turn out to be 38 of them, found it very interesting and knowledgeable which exceeded their expectation. Initially they thought that it would be a "commercial advertisement" or hard sell in the talk but it turn out to be a knowledge enhancement about the Feng Shui trends and practices and informative tools in your website. Both yourself and Master Cecil presentation was very interesting and we had a wonderful "luncheon talk" session. It was a success and all of us enjoy it very much ! Once again thank you :

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: I?ve bought a new house and have finished major renovation.

Dear Hock Chuan, ong hock chuan wrote: I am a bit confuse between Birth Element and Kua Element because my Kua Element is wood while my Birth element is water. Kua element or Eight House analysis is based only on YEAR of birth. While ba zi element or Ba Zi (4 Pillars/Pillars of Destiny), calculates from the day, month, year and time of birth (if available). Eight House is typtically useful for it's suitability check, as even though it is simple it has proven time and again to provide a good suitability check assessment. However, we normally do not use the Kua element as the true birth element as only the YEAR of birth was considered. True birth element is usually asssessed from the ba zi because each day the element will be different, so even if a year is considered Fire element, but a person can be a weak water/strongwater/weak wood/strongwoodborn in a Fire element year. So since ba zi is more accurate on this analysis, the birth element is always assessed using ba zi rather than Eight House. So that is why there are differences. Each tool has it's specific purpose and accuracy. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Quote: May I know her luck. She alway told me, she is not happy with her and change her job. What can I help her. Please be advised that this is actually beyond a free advise. However, seeing that she is unhappy, so I just reviewed some of her chart to see what I can help to advise. Her luck for this period is generally not very auspicious overall. Even for years which seems to have some luck favouring her, she has clashes or harm which will reduce ther luck significantly. Thus, she has to be extra careful this period. Analysis for Age 23 - 32 (2002 - 2011) Luck (3) [2002 to 2011] is an inauspicious period as it does not favour your 10 yearly Big Luck Period. (!--Age 23 - 32 (2002 - 2011) => [ji-si] (Earth-Fire) Inauspicious Period-->(Health Related) Possible Career Change / Change of Location: Si [2002 to 2006] (ji-Earth) is an auspicious period as it favours your 5 yearly Luck Period. [2002] ren-wu - Luck against you but Average - [Yearly Analysis] [1st 6 months] ren - is a little inauspicious. Heavenly Stem Clash: bing-ren [2nd 6 months] wu - is a little inauspicious. Earthly Branch Self Punishment: wu Possible Romance Encounter: Wu Nobleman Stars available to help you: Wu & Yin [2003] gui-wei - Luck against you but Very Good - [Yearly Analysis] [1st 6 months] gui - is a little inauspicious. [2nd 6 months] wei - is very auspicious. Creative Work or Influences Influence: Wei [2004] jia-shen - Luck with you but Bad - [Yearly Analysis] [1st 6 months] jia - is a little auspicious. [2nd 6 months] shen - is very auspicious. Earthly Branch Clash: yin-shen Earthly Branch Punishment: si-shen Nobleman Stars available to help you: Zi & Shen [2005] yi-you - Luck with you but Good - [Yearly Analysis] [1st 6 months] yi - is a little auspicious. Heavenly Stem Clash: yi-xin [2nd 6 months] you - is very auspicious. Earthly Branch Self Punishment: you Academic / Study Influences: You [2006] bing-shu - Luck with you but Average - [Yearly Analysis] [1st 6 months] bing - is a little inauspicious. [2nd 6 months] shu - is very auspicious. Earthly Branch Harm: you-shu Earthly Branch Punishment: wei-shu SCORE POINTS: -10 Overall, this is considered an Inauspicious period Anonymous wrote: What type career is suitable for her. Since she is a weak Metal, so Earth and Metal elements are particularly better for her. Furthermore, her Earth and Metal are so little ie 2%. So she needs a lot more of those elements. You can refer to this element chart:- URL: http://talk.geomancy.net Changes in your Five Element Balance for 23 - 32 (2002 - 2011) Water Wood Fire Earth Metal 8 % 44 % 41 % 2 % 2 % You are a Weak Metal. Generally, you will need more Earth and Metal, while avoiding any Fire or Water. In order to be effective, you should know how the current 10-year luck period affects your original five element distribution. So for this 10-year period you should fine tune your favourable elements as follows:- Favourable to you Your favourable element Earth (2%) and Metal (2%). You will need to have an equal amount of Earth (2%) and Metal (2%) to improve the luck for this period. Staying in a suitable House Element - Your luck will further be improved if you are staying in a house facing direction which represents Earth or direction which represents Earth. Having a suitable Career - Earth element career such as Customer Relations, Constructions, Games, etc. or a Metal element career such as Accountancy, Banking, Investment will improve luck for you. Having more favourable colours - You can further boost your luck by ensuring your bedroom decor/car colour/dressing are in yellow (Earth element) or white/gold (Metal element). Unfavourable to you While, your unfavourable elements are Fire (41%) and Water (8%) You will to avoid Fire (41%) more than Water (8%) to improve the luck for this period. Avoid staying in an unsuitable House Element - Your luck will further be reduced if you are staying in a house facing South direction which represents Fire Avoid an unsuitable career - Water element career such as Marketing, Sales, Fashion, etc, will make this period less auspicious for you. Avoid unfavourable colours - Should ensure you avoid bedroom decor/car colour/dressing are in red (Fire element). Anonymous wrote: She had MBA in Oricle, SAP and computer programing. But she unable to find a permenant jab. Basically, her MBA are considered mostly Water element especially computer programming. Water element will actually make her metal even weaker. So not really a favourable element for her. Her ba zi will better be suited for Earth or Metal elements which you can refer to this link again:- URL: http://talk.geomancy.net Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research.

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: I am sitting at a ProsperityDirection in my office but there is a pillar sharp corner facing my direction. Anonymous wrote: Just wondering howcan these be resolved? Is putting a plantat my desk to block good enough? 1. The best if you can put a partition or object (ie like a plant) to block the Sha Qi. In feng shui, when you can no longer see it, it no longer becomes a threat. 2. Some other ways if partition is not possible, is to have a circular mirror / a small dragon figuring to be placed on your desk to help deflect the poison arrow away. The first method above isbetterif possible. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: My main door is facing south and my apartment is not square, what is the best way I can fine the auspecious location to activate? By the way my apartment was completed in year 2000. It is really hard to advise without any layout to view what exactly you mean. However, for any of the odd shapes layout there are usually a few ways to apply feng shui:- 1. ie find the center influence of the entire layout, then treat those missing areas as missing sectors of the house or treat some of the sectors as a protrusion. 2. ie divide the layout into two portions to apply the feng shui. especially for L shaped apartments. You can find some example in this link under the More examples of how to determine the CENTER of a house. URL: http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-house1.htm If still not sure, attach a layout plan of your home and we can guide you. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: it was very interesting, lucky im only 23 so still along way off 35!! Anonymous wrote: do u have any charts?? Anonymous wrote: id like 2 see how the cycle go's. Sorry, but not sure what charts are you refering to? You mean your ba zi charts? You can access the free 10-big luck charts at this url:- URL: http://www.geomancy.net/reports/free-report/freerpt-element.htm Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Anon, Anonymous wrote: Can you see if a manager is compatible with his employee for exemple if one is strong fire and the other is weak fire are they compatible ? Generally, weak fire will benefit from the Strong Fire, as fire will make weak fire stronger. The Strong Fire, will lose some fire in the process. However, though the element pairing of weak and strong fire seems like a good pair. The problem comes with the fact, that because of the same element type ie Fire and Fire element, the two person will tend to want to compete and also may not see eye to eye with each other. Thus, there may be some potential friction between the two. So not really the best kind of pairing, Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

Dear Kit Fong, Kit Fong wrote: I will be selling my existing 5-room flats and buying a resale 4-room at Yishun (Khatib MRT). How do I know whether the house is suitable for me and my family? 1. Determine the house facing of new home ie. 2nd to 7th level apartment, take reading from your main door. ie take a compass reading standing inside your house at your main door looking outwards. ie. 8th level and up apartment, take the reading from your balcony/living room. ie take a compass reading standing inside your house at your living room/balcony looking outwards. 2. Once you determine the house facing, check if this house facing fits the breadwinner (one that earns most to provide for the entire family). URL: http://www.geomancy.net/reports/free-report/freerpt-8h.htm Most important is that the breadwinner to avoid Death or Disaster for the house facing. 3. Do the same to check for the rest of the family member. Make sure they have suitable bedrooms within the house that fall under the favourable sector. 4. If the above points are favourable, then it means that house will generally suit you and your family. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCT.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

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Dear Sophia, Sophia Chia wrote: Is the base star as important as mountain star and water star. If base #2 (Black)sicknessis affected by negative forces (ie hurt by other stars or bad forms). Will it affect the occupant of the house eg. Base#2, Mountain #2 and Water #8. As #2 they both are Earth and #8 canalso be earth. Yes, all 3 stars are actuallyequally important. You have to assess each sector by checking how each star will strengthen or weaken the sector. So like star 5 if there is a Fire star, it may strengthen the misfortune star. In your example, you need Metal to balance the excessive Earth. The Base 2 and Mountain 2 will strengthen each other and make it too excessively strong Earth influence. So misfortune may happen, as there is nothing to control the Earth element. As for the impact of the star, it will generally affect the people staying in that sector of the house. If the sector is your main door, it will affect the entire family members. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research