British summer time in birth chart calculation

[myfs_106913]

Hi my baby boy was born at 4.58 pm last Saturday (23 Aug 2008).

Its stillBritish Summer Time over here right now,which means the clocks are set 1 hour faster than in the winter months (in other words, now all the clocks in UK are set to GMT +1 because its still summertime, but in winter monthsfromlate Octoberto late March, the clocks in UK are all set to GMT +0).

My question is : If I want to obtain a bazi element report for my son, do I use the monkey hour or the dog hour as his hour of birth (since he was born last Saturday 23rd Aug 2008 at 4.58pm British Summer Time GMT +1 )???

[Robert Lee]

 

Dear Rachel,

 

 

Rachel R. wrote:
My question is : If I want to obtain a bazi element report for my son, do I use the monkey hour or the dog hour as his hour of birth (since he was born last Saturday 23rd Aug 2008 at 4.58pm British Summer Time GMT +1 )???

 

 

Our stand for all time zone related is to use the local time of birth. This is because to factor in location, the only true way is to input the long. and lat. of birth. But that adds further degree of error and not everyone will record this information, so not practical to be used.

 

 

So you should use the hour as in the hour when your son is born. So for example if he is born is the British Summer Time, then use that time as his hour. If he is born in the winter months, then use the winter months hour which is GMT +0.

 

 

So since he is born in the British Summer Time, then just use that as the hour of birth without any further modification.

 

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

Warmest Regards
Robert Lee
GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

 

[Cecil Lee]

Understand time of birth under Ba Zi or Pillars of Destiny:-

Extracted from the above article by Master Robert Lee, Geomancy.net

Is the use of Greenwich Meridian Time (GMT) necessary in Ba Zi?
APPLYING LOCATION FACTOR INTO BA ZI

1. In truth, the incorporation of TIME ZONE or LOCATION factors by contemporary practitioners is a modern adaptation that was not part of the original Ba Zi system developed in China.

2. The sole correct method from a technical standpoint is to incorporate the LOCATION factor into the Chinese Lunar Calendar. However, this approach presents two issues: -

a) A slight deviation of 0.01 degree in either latitude or longitude can significantly alter your Ba Zi chart. This minute error has the potential to decrease the accuracy of your chart, making it less reliable than a chart with an unknown hour pillar.

b) The majority of individuals do not possess their time of birth, let alone the precise location of birth. Therefore, why make the matter more complex.

3. Using GMT time zone is a bad way to apply the location factor, because GMT time zone only affects the longitude changes. Furthermore, GMT has been simplified so much so it is no longer as accurate as in the past.

4. Our stand on this issue is NOT to add these level of complication to the analysis. Meaning that you should just use your local time (regardless of what country), to analyse the Ba Zi.  

This is because if you truly understand how the Ba Zi works, the HOUR pillar will not make a major impact in terms of the 10-yearly, 5-yearly, yearly and monthly luck pillars.  

The hour pillar gives additional pillars available for combinations and clashes, so this can affect the final outcome of a person to be either weak or strong. A day without the hour will give the rough element strength of the day. Only a few hours may result in weak/strong element. Otherwise, not much change will occur. Your luck pillars will not be too badly influenced by the hour impact. Except for minor yearly and chart clash or harms that may occur. But these are minor as your general luck will not alter too much.  

5. This is why we can still analyse a person luck fairly well even if you do not provide the hour pillar. Just check out some of the masters who had done case study of famous people, you will noticed that they do it just with the date of birth. They don't even apply any location factor.  

Ba zi has designed to compensate from the lack of the hour pillar. So with or without the hour of birth, a person's chart can still be charted out. Just that with the hour pillar, your forecast will be more accurate.  

6. This is why we find no need to apply location into the Ba Zi. Just use your local time and it should be okay.  

7. You must always remember that a Ba Zi is supposed to be a heavenly GIVEN chart of what kind of luck you are supposed to have assuming your environment remains constant. This means it does not consider education, your house (earth luck), people around you, your career etc.