myfs_145115 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Master Cecil,Kindly advise which is the correct centerpoint - Layout A or Layout B?In Layout A, I included the garden area which is within the perimeter wall of the house. WithLayout A, the centerpoint will be the bathtub area. Ifthis is the correct centerpoint, should I move the bathtub? Thehouse is stillbeing constructed.Main door faceswest3.I did not include thegarage to get the flying stars.MS 6, WS 1, BS8.Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 4, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 4, 2010 It is best to you split it into two files that of layout A and another for B. As currently, it cannot be shown. Quote On 11/4/2010 10:35:18 PM, Anonymous wrote:Master Cecil,Kindly advisewhich is the correctcenterpoint - Layout Aor Layout B?In Layout A,I included the gardenarea which is within theperimeter wall of the house.WithLayout A, thecenterpoint will be thebathtub area. Ifthis isthe correct centerpoint,should I move the bathtub?Thehouse isstillbeingconstructed.Main doorfaceswest3.Idid not includethegarage to get theflying stars.MS 6, WS 1,BS8.Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_145115 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Master Cecil,Please see the revised attachments. By the way, there is no garage door since the house is within a compound. Thank you. Quote On 11/4/2010 10:36:20 PM, Anonymous wrote:It is best to you split it into twofiles that of layout A and another forB. As currently, it cannot be shown.On11/4/2010 10:35:18 PM, Anonymous wrote:Master Cecil,Kindly advisewhichis the correctcenterpoint -Layout Aor Layout B?In Layout A,I included the gardenareawhich is within theperimeter wallof the house.WithLayout A,thecenterpoint will be thebathtub area. Ifthis isthe correct centerpoint,shouldI move the bathtub?Thehouseisstillbeingconstructed.Main doorfaceswest3.Idid not includethegarageto get theflying stars.MS 6,WS 1,BS8.Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 6, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 6, 2010 Since within the living area, there is an open courtyard = lanaiIf academically speaking, this missing area should be considered against the courtyard. Then based on the concept of center of gravity; layout A closely match this concept: where roughly the missing corner matches the additional space or the additional non living space or protusion area may be reduced slightly where the area of the lanai (courtyard) equals the other protrusion. Currently i am only eyeballing it only. Quote On 11/5/2010 7:35:33 PM, Anonymous wrote:Master Cecil,Please see the revisedattachments. By the way, there is nogarage door since the house is within acompound. Thank you.On 11/4/201010:36:20 PM, Cecil Lee wrote: >It isbest to you split it into two >filesthat of layout A and another for >B.As currently, it cannot be shown.On11/4/2010 10:35:18 PM, Anonymouswrote: >>Master Cecil,Kindlyadvise >which >is the correctcenterpoint ?- >Layout Aor Layout B?In Layout A,?I included the gardenarea >which is within theperimeter wall >of the house.With?Layout A, >thecenterpoint will be thebathtub area. If?this isthe correct centerpoint,should >I move the bathtub?The?house >isstill?beingconstructed.Main doorfaces?west?3.?Idid not includethe?garage >to get theflying stars.?MS 6, >WS 1,BS8.Thank you.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 6, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 6, 2010 These are futher illustrations:-1. Frankly, even between your layout a and b; the center-point is pretty close to each other. Only thing is that under layout plan a, it falls within the toilet area (long bath)2. Under the so called: center-of-gravity method:2.1. The usual suggestion is to copy a layout plan. Paste it on a cardboard and cut-out the outline of the interior "living" space. And balance this onto a nail or in.2.2. Under the eye-ball method, please see attachment: ILLUSTRATION B; so long as the missing area (IN YELLOW) is roughly equal to the area of theextra spacewhich I called protrusion (not exactly a protrusion, here)ifcan refer to the attachment in GREEN.Using eye-ball method this green area is roughly the area of the yellow missing area. Quote On 11/6/2010 7:00:10 AM, Anonymous wrote:Since within the living area,there is an open courtyard =lanaiIf academically speaking, thismissing area should beconsidered against thecourtyard. Then based on theconcept of center of gravity;layout A closely match thisconcept: where roughly themissing corner matches theadditional space or theadditional non living space orprotusion area may be reducedslightly where the area of thelanai (courtyard) equals theother protrusion. Currently iam only eyeballing it only.On 11/5/2010 7:35:33 PM, Anonymouswrote:Master Cecil,Please see the revisedattachments. By the way, there is nogarage door since the house is within acompound. Thank you.On 11/4/201010:36:20 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:It isbest to you split it into twofilesthat of layout A and another forB.As currently, it cannot be shown.On11/4/2010 10:35:18 PM, Anonymouswrote:Master Cecil,Kindlyadvisewhichis the correctcenterpoint -Layout Aor Layout B?In Layout A,I included the gardenareawhich is within theperimeter wallof the house.WithLayout A,thecenterpoint will be thebathtub area. Ifthis isthe correct centerpoint,shouldI move the bathtub?Thehouseisstillbeingconstructed.Main doorfaceswest3.Idid not includethegarageto get theflying stars.MS 6,WS 1,BS8.Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_145115 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Master Cecil,Many thanks for the illustration. Given that the centerpoint is in the bathroom (bathtub) area, is this inauspicious? Should I make the bathroom smaller so that the centerpoint will fall outside the bathroom? The house faces W3. MS 6, WS 1 and BS 8.Again, many thanks. Quote On 11/6/2010 10:13:30 AM, Anonymous wrote:These are futher illustrations:-1.Frankly, even between your layout a andb; the center-point is pretty close toeach other. Only thing is that underlayout plan a, it falls within thetoilet area (long bath)2. Under the socalled: center-of-gravity method:2.1.The usual suggestion is to copy a layoutplan. Paste it on a cardboard andcut-out the outline of the interior"living" space. And balance this onto anail or in.2.2. Under the eye-ballmethod, please see attachment:ILLUSTRATION B; so long as the missingarea (IN YELLOW) is roughly equal to thearea of theextra spacewhichI called protrusion (not exactly aprotrusion, here)ifcan referto the attachment in GREEN.Usingeye-ball method this green area isroughly the area of the yellow missingarea. On 11/6/2010 7:00:10 AM,Cecil Lee wrote:Since within theliving area,there is an opencourtyard =lanaiIfacademically speaking, thismissingarea should beconsidered againstthecourtyard. Then based on theconcept of center of gravity;layout A closely match thisconcept: where roughly themissing corner matches theadditional space or theadditional non living space orprotusion area may be reducedslightly where the area of thelanai (courtyard) equals theother protrusion. Currently iamonly eyeballing it only.On11/5/2010 7:35:33 PM, Anonymouswrote:Master Cecil,Pleasesee the revisedattachments. Bythe way, there is nogarage doorsince the house is within acompound. Thank you.On 11/4/201010:36:20 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:It isbest to you split itinto twofilesthat oflayout A and another forB.As currently, it cannot beshown.On11/4/2010 10:35:18PM, Anonymouswrote:Master Cecil,Kindlyadvisewhichis thecorrectcenterpoint -Layout Aor Layout B?InLayout A,Iincluded the gardenareawhich is within theperimeter wallof thehouse.WithLayout A,thecenterpoint will bethebathtub area.Ifthis isthecorrect centerpoint,shouldI move the bathtub?Thehouseisstillbeingconstructed.Main doorfaceswest3. Idid not includethegarageto gettheflying stars.MS 6,WS 1,BS8.Thankyou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 6, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 6, 2010 These are some considerations:-1. You stay there, I (geomancer) don't!1.1. Thus it would be very irresponsible for me to give you a one line advice! And you may have to live with such a consequence.2. Just imagine a bomb. Even a bomb or a grenade when it detonates; has a critical radius. Thus, don't just think that just because the centre of gravity is only a pin prick, it is only at that dot.3. Just look at the illustration b, I provided. The area is at least larger than the red circle I drawn around the "pin prick" centre of gravity.4. Thus, what makes one think that by say shrinking the toilet (a little) one's worry is totally erased.5. As mentioned, many times; toilet at the centrepoint is considered as one leak. And in your case, not that bad given that it is not the wc (toilet bowl).6. Usually if there are problems; problems occur when a home has three or more MAJOR leaks. Quote On 11/6/2010 2:02:31 PM, Anonymous wrote:Master Cecil,Many thanks for theillustration. Given that the centerpointis in the bathroom (bathtub) area, isthis inauspicious? Should I make thebathroom smaller so that the centerpointwill fall outside the bathroom? Thehouse faces W3. MS 6, WS 1 and BS8.Again, many thanks.On 11/6/201010:13:30 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:Theseare futher illustrations:-1.Frankly, even between your layout aandb; the center-point is prettyclose toeach other. Only thing isthat underlayout plan a, it fallswithin thetoilet area (long bath)2.Under the socalled:center-of-gravity method:2.1.Theusual suggestion is to copy a layoutplan. Paste it on a cardboard andcut-out the outline of the interior"living" space. And balance thisonto anail or in.2.2. Under theeye-ballmethod, please seeattachment:ILLUSTRATION B; so longas the missingarea (IN YELLOW) isroughly equal to thearea oftheextra spacewhichIcalled protrusion (not exactly aprotrusion, here)ifcanreferto the attachment inGREEN.Usingeye-ball methodthis green area isroughly thearea of the yellow missingarea.On 11/6/2010 7:00:10 AM,CecilLee wrote:Since within theliving area,there is an opencourtyard =lanaiIfacademically speaking, thismissingarea should beconsidered againstthecourtyard. Then based on theconcept of center of gravity;layout A closely match thisconcept: where roughly themissing corner matches theadditional space or theadditional non living space orprotusion area may be reducedslightly where the area of thelanai (courtyard) equals theother protrusion. Currently iamonly eyeballing it only.On11/5/2010 7:35:33 PM,Anonymouswrote:MasterCecil,Pleasesee the revisedattachments. Bythe way,there is nogarage doorsince the house is within acompound. Thank you.On11/4/201010:36:20 PM, CecilLee wrote:It isbest toyou split itinto twofilesthat oflayout A and anotherforB.As currently, itcannot beshown.On11/4/2010 10:35:18PM,Anonymouswrote:Master Cecil,Kindlyadvisewhichis thecorrectcenterpoint-Layout AorLayout B?InLayout A,Iincluded thegardenareawhich iswithin theperimeterwallof thehouse.WithLayout A,thecenterpoint willbethebathtub area.Ifthis isthecorrect centerpoint,shouldI move thebathtub?Thehouseisstillbeingconstructed.Maindoorfaceswest;3. Ididnot includethegaragetogettheflyingstars.MS 6,WS 1,BS8.Thankyou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 6, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 6, 2010 Do take note that it is not just about the centerpoint (centrepoint) or the center-of-gravity.Please see attachment: and where is the area occupied by the CENTER SQUARE or GRID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_145115 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Master Cecil,Thank you for easing my mind that this is not a major leak. But is this still considered a minor leak?Many thanks. Quote On 11/6/2010 3:14:19 PM, Anonymous wrote:Do take note that it is notjust about the centerpoint(centrepoint) or thecenter-of-gravity.Please seeattachment: and where is thearea occupied by the CENTERSQUARE or GRID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 8, 2010 Staff Share Posted November 8, 2010 I reproduce my comments, below:-=== START ===These are some considerations:-1. You stay there, I (geomancer) don't!1.1. Thus it would be very irresponsible for me to give you a one line advice! And you may have to live with such a consequence.2. Just imagine a bomb. Even a bomb or a grenade when it detonates; has a critical radius. Thus, don't just think that just because the centre of gravity is only a pin prick, it is only at that dot.3. Just look at the illustration b, I provided. The area is at least larger than the red circle I drawn around the "pin prick" centre of gravity.4. Thus, what makes one think that by say shrinking the toilet (a little) one's worry is totally erased.5. As mentioned, many times; toilet at the centrepoint is considered as one leak. And in your case, not that bad given that it is not the wc (toilet bowl).6. Usually if there are problems; problems occur when a home has three or more MAJOR leaks.=== END ===Please re-read, above. Where did I ever mention any terms like MINOR or MAJOR leaks other than the last statement under Para 6?Under Para5, I just mentioned that it is just one leak.And I did not mentionthat it is a minor or major leak.Please note that it can still be a major leak even if the toilet bowl is not at the "pin prick" area.Furthermore,in the last illustration, I did show that the centre-grid or square is pretty large and again not just a "pin prick". In addition, please re-read Para 2, above.I hope it is not a case of HOPE and Denial type of situation. "Oh he says no major leak - and Iam very happy with this statement."BUT show me, wheredid I ever say it is firstly not a MAJOR leak....??? Quote On 11/7/2010 9:22:11 PM, Anonymous wrote:Master Cecil,Thank you for easing mymind that this is not a major leak. Butis this still considered a minorleak?Many thanks.On 11/6/2010 3:14:19PM, Cecil Lee wrote:Do take notethat it is notjust about thecenterpoint(centrepoint) or thecenter-of-gravity.Please seeattachment: and where is thearea occupied by the CENTERSQUARE or GRID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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