Significance of Koi fish in Feng Shui

[myfs_147277]

Dear Master,
Very recently only I came to know about you and the website. This site is excellent and your advises are fabulous.
I need to know the significance of live Koi fish in Fengshui, as I am intrested to have an aquarium in my house. My Kua number is 4 , my wife is 7 and my son is 1. We want your advise in choosing the right colour and right number of Koi fishes for our aquarium.I came to read from other website that keeping 7 red colour Koi fish and 1 black colour is good. In this case I would like to know that while selecting the colour it should be pure red colour or combination of red colour can go with that.
Expecting your valuable advise and reply
Thanking You
Manu Alex
United Arab Emirates

[Cecil Lee]

These are some information:-
1. Although the Japanese made Koi famous with all the various distinctive names based on the markings on the Koi fish;
2. In fact, the Koi fish has it's origins in China as "carps".
3. Under the Five Elements concept; the Koi fish if one looks carefully is shiny and like the gold fish; is considered as belonging to the metal element.
4. Under the Five Elements concept: Metal supports Water. That is why, it is considered a fabulus combination.
5. You can read more about the Koi and it's association with the Five Elements concept:-
http://fountain.geomancy.net
6. Just remember; Metal supports Water. And if you have time; go thru the above article from Para 2.1 to 2.12 to have a good grounding of this Five Elementsconcept.
7. In general, since the Koi fish is shiny or metallic; you don't have to worry too much of the colour combination EXCEPT:-
7.1.ALL BLACKKoi fish: No one wants to keep so many black ones...Thus black represents WATER element. Still OK.
7.2. In life; even in our normal surroundings; it is fine to have a range of koi fishes of various colours e.g. red , red-black, white-yellow, orange etc....

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On 11/30/2010 5:51:32 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master,Very recently only
I came to know about you and
the website. This site is
excellent and your advises are
fabulous.I need to know the
significance of live Koi fish
in Fengshui, as I am intrested
to have an aquarium in my
house. My Kua number is 4 , my
wife is 7 and my son is 1. We
want your advise in choosing
the right colour and right
number of Koi fishes for our
aquarium.I came to read from
other website that keeping 7
red colour Koi fish and 1
black colour is good. In this
case I would like to know that
while selecting the colour it
should be pure red colour or
combination of red colour can
go with that.Expecting your
valuable advise and
replyThanking YouManu
AlexUnited Arab Emirates

[Cecil Lee]

Further to what I had mentioned, this same link shows sample of the significance of how many fishes and the symbolism attached to it:-
http://fountain.geomancy.net
As for the 7 red and 1 black:-
Black represents the water element.
While #7 represents Weak Metal element. Thus you don't need all RED koi's but rather 7 other Koi's of any other combination of colours so long as it is not TOTALLY black.
Frankly, go enjoy the Koi for what it is worth. And not for the sake of "Feng Shui".
Enjoyment does not mean constant worry of making sure that the "quota" of fishes is not breached or lacking.
Who in the world would take an inventory of one's fish every day etc...
Thus the most practical method is : since all Koi's are of the metal element; and since metal supports water; this is harmonous enough! And I would not careless how many be it 7 plus 1 or
6 (stong metal) plus 1 black!
Just look at the attachment: beautiful painting of 9 kois meeting 9 Kois. 9 symbolises longevity. And if you count the number of fishes, there are 9 on one side meeting the other 9 on the other side: Koipaint1.jpg
Furthermore, this 7 plus 1 thing applies more inside the home where one keeps goldfishes....

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On 11/30/2010 6:55:14 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some information:-1. Although
the Japanese made Koi famous with all
the various distinctive names based on
the markings on the Koi fish;2. In fact,
the Koi fish has it's origins in China
as "carps".3. Under the Five Elements
concept; the Koi fish if one looks
carefully is shiny and like the gold
fish; is considered as belonging to the
metal element.4. Under the Five Elements
concept: Metal supports Water. That is
why, it is considered a fabulus
combination. 5. You can read more about
the Koi and it's association with the
Five Elements
concept:-http://fountain.geomancy.net6.
Just remember; Metal supports Water. And
if you have time; go thru the above
article from Para 2.1 to 2.12 to have a
good grounding of this Five
Elementsconcept.7. In general,
since the Koi fish is shiny or metallic;
you don't have to worry too much of the
colour combination EXCEPT:-7.1.ALL
BLACKKoi fish: No one wants to
keep so many black ones...Thus
black represents WATER element. Still
OK.7.2. In life; even in our
normal surroundings; it is fine to have
a range of koi fishes of various colours
e.g. red , red-black,
white-yellow, orange etc....On
11/30/2010 5:51:32 PM, Manu Alex wrote:
Dear Master,Very recently only
I
came to know about you and
the
website. This site is
excellent and
your advises are
fabulous.I need to
know the
significance of live Koi
fish
in Fengshui, as I am intrested
to have an aquarium in my
house.
My Kua number is 4 , my
wife is 7
and my son is 1. We
want your advise
in choosing
the right colour and
right
number of Koi fishes for our
aquarium.I came to read from
other website that keeping 7
red
colour Koi fish and 1
black colour
is good. In this
case I would like
to know that
while selecting the
colour it
should be pure red colour
or
combination of red colour can
go with that.Expecting your
valuable advise and
replyThanking YouManu
AlexUnited
Arab Emirates

[myfs_147277]

Hi Master,
Thanks for your reply and valuable advise.
If this is the case that I dont need all red Koi's but rather 7 other different red combinations and a black one, if so , what will be the case with the black one? Should i go for a perfect pure black or a combination of black can do.
Please advise
Thanks
Manu Alex

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On 11/30/2010 7:24:26 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Further to what I had mentioned, this
same link shows sample of the
significance of how many fishes and the
symbolism attached to
it:-http://fountain.geomancy.netAs for
the 7 red and 1 black:-Black represents
the water element. While #7 represents
Weak Metal element. Thus you don't need
all RED koi's but rather 7 other Koi's
of any other combination of colours so
long as it is not TOTALLY black.Frankly,
go enjoy the Koi for what it is worth.
And not for the sake of "Feng
Shui".Enjoyment does not mean constant
worry of making sure that the "quota" of
fishes is not breached or lacking.Who in
the world would take an inventory of
one's fish every day etc... Thus the
most practical method is : since all
Koi's are of the metal element; and
since metal supports water; this is
harmonous enough! And I would not
careless how many be it 7 plus 1 or6
(stong metal) plus 1 black!Just look at
the attachment: beautiful painting of 9
kois meeting 9 Kois. 9 symbolises
longevity. And if you count the number
of fishes, there are 9 on one side
meeting the other 9 on the other side:
Koipaint1.jpgFurthermore, this 7 plus 1
thing applies more inside the home where
one keeps goldfishes....On 11/30/2010
6:55:14 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
These
are some information:-1. Although
the Japanese made Koi famous with
all
the various distinctive names
based on
the markings on the Koi
fish;2. In fact,
the Koi fish has
it's origins in China
as "carps".3.
Under the Five Elements
concept; the
Koi fish if one looks
carefully is
shiny and like the gold
fish; is
considered as belonging to the
metal
element.4. Under the Five Elements
concept: Metal supports Water. That
is
why, it is considered a fabulus
combination. 5. You can read more
about
the Koi and it's association
with the
Five Elements
concept:-http://fountain.geomancy.ne
t6.
Just remember; Metal supports
Water. And
if you have time; go thru
the above
article from Para 2.1 to
2.12 to have a
good grounding of
this Five
Elementsconcept.7.
In general,
since the Koi fish is
shiny or metallic;
you don't have to
worry too much of the
colour
combination EXCEPT:-7.1.ALL
BLACKKoi fish: No one wants to
keep so many black ones...Thus
black represents WATER element.
Still
OK.7.2. In life; even in
our
normal surroundings; it is fine
to have
a range of koi fishes of
various colours
e.g. red ,
red-black,
white-yellow, orange
etc....On
11/30/2010 5:51:32
PM, Manu Alex wrote:
Dear
Master,Very recently only
I
came
to know about you and
the
website. This site is
excellent
and
your advises are
fabulous.I
need to
know the
significance of
live Koi
fish
in Fengshui, as I
am intrested
to have an aquarium
in my
house.
My Kua number is 4
, my
wife is 7
and my son is 1.
We
want your advise
in choosing
the right colour and
right
number of Koi fishes for our
aquarium.I came to read from
other website that keeping 7
red
colour Koi fish and 1
black colour
is good. In this
case I would like
to know that
while selecting the
colour it
should be pure red colour
or
combination of red colour can
go with that.Expecting your
valuable advise and
replyThanking YouManu
AlexUnited
Arab Emirates

[Cecil Lee]

These are some further considerations:-
1. Do you intend to keep only 7 + 1 koi fishes?
2. If so, then:-
2.1. In any event that (touch-wood) any of the fishes die; the probability is one of the 7 other fishes. If so, 6 + 1 koi fishes is acceptable.
2.2. Unless one wants only 7 + 1 = 8 (8 represents) prosperity, then should the fishes become only 6 + 1, then replenish with1 other coloured fishes.
3. If you intend to keep only 7 + 1 koi fishes; then look at it this way; no harm if you feel comfortable that your black should be black. Thus, on the safe side; since you already intend to keep a black one, why not the totally BLACK one. Not those red-black ones, right?
3.1 Blacks are usually :Kumonryu or another black variety called Karasu,
4. Anyway, in Singapore, especially those who have a large pond outside their homes would always keep as much as they feel their tank can have. Not so much of only in the name of Feng Shui sake : 7 + 1 (full stop) type of senairo.

[myfs_147277]

Dear Master,
I dont intend to keep only 8 Koi fishes. I want to keep more. But 8 stands for luck and 9 stands for longetitvity, i will rather go for 9. My only concern was how I need to choose the colour. Now from your reply I understood that I can go for any combinations as long as it has got colours red and black on it,
Any special things to be taken care of as Iam a wood horse combination with Kua number 4.
Please advise

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On 11/30/2010 7:49:37 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some further
considerations:-1. Do you
intend to keep only 7 + 1 koi
fishes?2. If so, then:-2.1. In
any event that (touch-wood)
any of the fishes die; the
probability is one of the 7
other fishes. If so, 6 + 1 koi
fishes is acceptable.2.2.
Unless one wants only 7 + 1 =
8 (8 represents) prosperity,
then should the fishes become
only 6 + 1, then replenish
with1 other coloured
fishes.3. If you intend to
keep only 7 + 1 koi fishes;
then look at it this way; no
harm if you feel comfortable
that your black should be
black. Thus, on the safe side;
since you already intend to
keep a black one, why not the
totally BLACK one. Not those
red-black ones,
right?3.1 Blacks are
usually :Kumonryu or
another black variety called
Karasu, 4. Anyway, in
Singapore, especially those
who have a large pond outside
their homes would always keep
as much as they feel their
tank can have. Not so much of
only in the name of Feng Shui
sake : 7 + 1 (full stop) type
of senairo.

[Cecil Lee]

1. Frankly, are you keeping Koi fishes for enjoyment? OR
2. Keeping Koi fishes FOR THE SAKE of FUNG SWAY?
3. If one intends to keep Koi fishes in the name and holy spirit of Fung Sway, then, read more and there are tons and tons of methods to derive a number.
4. Honestly, for those who go in the direction of Para 2, or 2; then go ahead, throw a dice or flip a coin: Heads or tails.. and the quest for the kind of fishes.
5. For heaven's sake, one will be more successful, for the love, enjoyment of Feng Shui and not Fung Sway type of thing.
6. When we go down to a koi shop, it is like going into a pet shop and "falling" in love with that cute little dog. And not again in the name of Fung Sway ; where sway means bad luck!
7. Come on, how can keeping koi fishes become "rocket science?"
8. Why the uncertainty and fear of what colour, combinations etc.. to keep?
9. In all questions in this forum on this subject; I hope that you don't make this hobby for hobbists into a rocket science subject or atomic science subject.

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On 11/30/2010 7:54:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master,I dont intend to keep only 8
Koi fishes. I want to keep more. But 8
stands for luck and 9 stands for
longetitvity, i will rather go for 9. My
only concern was how I need to choose
the colour. Now from your reply I
understood that I can go for any
combinations as long as it has got
colours red and black on it,Any special
things to be taken care of as Iam a wood
horse combination with Kua number
4.Please adviseOn 11/30/2010 7:49:37 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are some
further
considerations:-1. Do you
intend to keep only 7 + 1 koi
fishes?2. If so, then:-2.1. In
any event that (touch-wood)
any
of the fishes die; the
probability
is one of the 7
other fishes. If so,
6 + 1 koi
fishes is acceptable.2.2.
Unless one wants only 7 + 1 =
8
(8 represents) prosperity,
then
should the fishes become
only 6 + 1,
then replenish
with1 other
coloured
fishes.3. If you intend to
keep only 7 + 1 koi fishes;
then
look at it this way; no
harm if you
feel comfortable
that your black
should be
black. Thus, on the safe
side;
since you already intend to
keep a black one, why not the
totally BLACK one. Not those
red-black ones,
right?3.1
Blacks are
usually :Kumonryu
or
another black variety called
Karasu, 4. Anyway, in
Singapore,
especially those
who have a large
pond outside
their homes would
always keep
as much as they feel
their
tank can have. Not so much of
only in the name of Feng Shui
sake : 7 + 1 (full stop) type
of
senairo.

[Cecil Lee]

These are further considerations:
1. We consider luck as classified into three categories.
2. Here, this is known as the "Holy Trinity" of (Chinese) Luck system:-
2.1. Heaven Luck or simply born with e.g. some considered born with a silver spoon etc...
2.2. Earth Luck or Feng Shui - such as luck from home or office
2.3. Human or Man Luck - such as relationships, family bonding etc..
3. Some people don't have good Heaven or Earth luck. But simple things like a real hobby e.g. enjoying the maintenance of a koi pond, the pleasures of seeing these fishes circling around in the pond awaiting feeding etc...
4. Thus,we often hear; some people, turn their hobby into a labour of love - where work and play comes together.
5. Where got.. worry about number of stripes on a fish or number of fishes or what crap the colour of the fish are... This is ridiculous.. for most people. Unless, one has nothing better to do daily...
6. No offense, but frankly, successful people don't go around counting how many fishes in their pond. They look at the bigger picture: I need a koi pond, here (full stop). Someone else, create the pond and populate it.

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On 11/30/2010 8:44:49 PM, Anonymous wrote:
1. Frankly, are you keeping
Koi fishes for enjoyment? OR2.
Keeping Koi fishes FOR THE
SAKE of FUNG SWAY?3. If one
intends to keep Koi fishes in
the name and holy spirit of
Fung Sway, then, read more and
there are tons and tons of
methods to derive a number. 4.
Honestly, for those who go in
the direction of Para 2, or 2;
then go ahead, throw a dice or
flip a coin: Heads or tails..
and the quest for the kind of
fishes.5. For heaven's sake,
one will be more successful,
for the love, enjoyment of
Feng Shui and not Fung Sway
type of thing.6. When we go
down to a koi shop, it is like
going into a pet shop and
"falling" in love with that
cute little dog. And not again
in the name of Fung Sway ;
where sway means bad luck!7.
Come on, how can keeping koi
fishes become "rocket
science?"8. Why the
uncertainty and fear of what
colour, combinations etc.. to
keep?9. In all questions in
this forum on this subject; I
hope that you don't make this
hobby for hobbists into a
rocket science subject or
atomic science subject.
On 11/30/2010 7:54:00 PM, Manu Alex
wrote:
Dear Master,I dont intend to
keep only 8
Koi fishes. I want to
keep more. But 8
stands for luck and
9 stands for
longetitvity, i will
rather go for 9. My
only concern was
how I need to choose
the colour. Now
from your reply I
understood that I
can go for any
combinations as long
as it has got
colours red and black
on it,Any special
things to be taken
care of as Iam a wood
horse
combination with Kua number
4.Please
adviseOn 11/30/2010 7:49:37 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are some
further
considerations:-1. Do
you
intend to keep only 7 + 1
koi
fishes?2. If so, then:-2.1.
In
any event that (touch-wood)
any
of the fishes die; the
probability
is one of the 7
other fishes. If so,
6 + 1 koi
fishes is acceptable.2.2.
Unless one wants only 7 + 1 =
8
(8 represents) prosperity,
then
should the fishes become
only 6 + 1,
then replenish
with1 other
coloured
fishes.3. If you intend to
keep only 7 + 1 koi fishes;
then
look at it this way; no
harm if you
feel comfortable
that your black
should be
black. Thus, on the safe
side;
since you already intend to
keep a black one, why not the
totally BLACK one. Not those
red-black ones,
right?3.1
Blacks are
usually :Kumonryu
or
another black variety called
Karasu, 4. Anyway, in
Singapore,
especially those
who have a large
pond outside
their homes would
always keep
as much as they feel
their
tank can have. Not so much of
only in the name of Feng Shui
sake : 7 + 1 (full stop) type
of
senairo.

[Cecil Lee]

Reference Link: http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=12485&new=

As mentioned earlier, many of us don't have "born with luck" and good "Feng Shui". But the lucky ones always got great support (especially) from family members!
My all time favourite sterling example of Human or man luck; has to do with this show:-
The Movie Executive Decision By Warner Bros (Also called Critical Decisions)

Extract of the link:-
One of my most favourate movie is:

8.1 In US it is called: Critical Decision

8.2 But in Singapore it is called: Executive Decision.

8.3 This show was shot by Warner Brothers: starring Kurt Russell and Halle Berry (the most recent pretty James Bond girl).

9. I have watched this show at least 100 times throught these many years. And the ending has a good line. Where, Kurt Russell, who is not a jumbo jet pilot but a miltary adviser flew this plan and tries to land it.

10. He (Kurt) tried first to land at Dallas Airport, but was unsuccessful. He then make a turn towards a small airfield and when recognising this small field, he had a little confidence. Halle Berry who plays the flight attendant was helping him with the instructions: finally I like this part something like:

9.1 Kurt Russell: what else did I forgot (after lowering the wheels and checking air speed);

9.2 Hale Berry: Who cares, JUST FLY THE PLANE!

9.3 Kurt Russell: Got a sudden surge of confidence and then flew the plane, landing it safely on the ground.

10. All I can say to you, "who cares" about worrying too much, JUST DO YOUR BEST or FLY YOUR PLANE!
Thus what the heck why worry about how many fishes or colours...

[Cecil Lee]

How often we hear of this....

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On 11/30/2010 9:24:53 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Reference Link:
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpf
orum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&m
id=12485&new=
As mentioned earlier, many of
us don't have "born with luck"
and good "Feng Shui". But the
lucky ones always got great
support (especially) from
family members! My all time
favourite sterling example of
Human or man luck; has to do
with this show:-The Movie
Executive Decision By Warner
Bros (Also called Critical
Decisions)
Extract of the link:- One of
my most favourate movie is:
8.1 In US it is called:
Critical Decision
8.2 But in Singapore it is
called: Executive Decision.
8.3 This show was shot by
Warner Brothers: starring Kurt
Russell and Halle Berry (the
most recent pretty James Bond
girl).
9. I have watched this show at
least 100 times throught these
many years. And the ending has
a good line. Where, Kurt
Russell, who is not a jumbo
jet pilot but a miltary
adviser flew this plan and
tries to land it.
10. He (Kurt) tried first to
land at Dallas Airport, but
was unsuccessful. He then make
a turn towards a small
airfield and when recognising
this small field, he had a
little confidence. Halle Berry
who plays the flight attendant
was helping him with the
instructions: finally I like
this part something like:
9.1 Kurt Russell: what else
did I forgot (after lowering
the wheels and checking air
speed);
9.2 Hale Berry: Who cares,
JUST FLY THE PLANE!
9.3 Kurt Russell: Got a sudden
surge of confidence and then
flew the plane, landing it
safely on the ground.
10. All I can say to you, "who
cares" about worrying too
much, JUST DO YOUR BEST or FLY
YOUR PLANE!Thus what the heck
why worry about how many
fishes or colours...

[myfs_147277]

Master,
Finally, you opened my eyes.
Thank You

 

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On 11/30/2010 10:34:33 PM, Anonymous wrote:
How often we hear of this....On
11/30/2010 9:24:53 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
Reference Link:
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpf
orum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&m
id=12485&new=
As mentioned
earlier, many of
us don't have "born
with luck"
and good "Feng Shui". But
the
lucky ones always got great
support (especially) from
family
members! My all time
favourite
sterling example of
Human or man
luck; has to do
with this show:-The
Movie
Executive Decision By Warner
Bros (Also called Critical
Decisions)
Extract of the
link:- One of
my most favourate
movie is:
8.1 In US it is called:
Critical Decision
8.2 But in
Singapore it is
called: Executive
Decision.
8.3 This show was shot by
Warner Brothers: starring Kurt
Russell and Halle Berry (the
most recent pretty James Bond
girl).
9. I have watched this
show at
least 100 times throught
these
many years. And the ending has
a good line. Where, Kurt
Russell, who is not a jumbo
jet
pilot but a miltary
adviser flew
this plan and
tries to land it.
10. He (Kurt) tried first to
land at Dallas Airport, but
was
unsuccessful. He then make
a turn
towards a small
airfield and when
recognising
this small field, he had
a
little confidence. Halle Berry
who plays the flight attendant
was helping him with the
instructions: finally I like
this part something like:
9.1
Kurt Russell: what else
did I forgot
(after lowering
the wheels and
checking air
speed);
9.2 Hale
Berry: Who cares,
JUST FLY THE
PLANE!
9.3 Kurt Russell: Got a
sudden
surge of confidence and then
flew the plane, landing it
safely on the ground.
10. All I
can say to you, "who
cares" about
worrying too
much, JUST DO YOUR BEST
or FLY
YOUR PLANE!Thus what the heck
why worry about how many
fishes
or colours...

 

 

[Cecil Lee]

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