is it safe to give birth date and time information

[myfs_151463]

As I heard that some people might be able to cast black magic on it based on the birth date/time? is it true?
I heard there is alternative way for providing time information, for instance, let say the birth time is 0234, just let them know is between 0201 to 0259. But I'm not sure whether will there be any difference.
I would wish to hear your advise master.

[Cecil Lee]

These are some considerations:

1. Take for example a tiny red dot : Singapore. (Many countries also have day-light saving hours)

2. Even in Singapore's history, if we really look or dwell deeper into the "recorded" birth-timing; one will be amazed at the varied range of "birth-timing".

3. For example, many of us base our birth-time on our birth-certificate. And for a country like Singapore, I am aware that birth-timing even in those born in the 1930's are recorded on their birth-cert.

3.1. ?Standard Time? in Use in Singapore Period in use Time offset from GMT Reference Meridian Name of Time (unofficial)
Until 1905 May 31 + 6hr 55m 25s 103 51 16 E Singapore Mean Time
======================================================
1905 Jun 01 - 1932 Dec 31 + 7hr 00m 00s 105 00 00 E Standard Zone Time
1933 Jan 01 - 1941 Aug 31 + 7hr 20m 00s 110 00 00 E Daylight Saving Time
1941 Sep 01 - 1942 Feb 15 + 7hr 30m 00s 112 30 00 E Daylight Saving Time
1942 Feb 16 - 1945 Sep 12 + 9hr 00m 00s 135 00 00 E Tokyo Standard Time @
1945 Sep 13 - 1981 Dec 31 + 7hr 30m 00s 112 30 00 E DST/MST/SST # @
1982 Jan 01 - Present + 8hr 00m 00s 120 00 00 E Singapore Standard Time

Source and credit: http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/timezone.html

4. Why do I bring this up?

4.1. In the past, in Singapore, many births especially those born in rural Singapore; often register their birth-dates (and timing) some even a few weeks later at a municipal office.

4.2. Thus, especially for an orphan or even those whose parents don't disclose their actual birth-dates; their ba zi is as good as inaccurate even if this is revealed to a bomoh (black magic) person.

4.3. And common sense says that even in a tiny red dot (Singapore); even if someone else wants to know or the person accidentally reveals his/her birth date and especially timing; it can be inaccurate.

5. Contrary to misconception: black magic practitioners have many tools in their "dirty black bag".

5.1. Thus, do you think that even without revealing one's DD/MM/YYY/HHHH; such black magic practitioners can even go ahead and "Do it".

5.2. Black magic practitioners use many tools or various arsenals to place black magic without the need of a birth-date or even time of birth:

5.2.1 Like some CSI shows; they do swaps of a glass that a person slips from. Black magic practitioners don't use this; but rather, some get hold of things like the "victim's hair or blood".

and/or

5.2.2 In relationships; a jealous wife may be tasked to get their partner to drink a potion

and/or

5.2.3 Burn some charm and mix these into a drink
and/or

5.2.4 Some black magic persons may even cultivate or control some evil spirits : and as the master, task these spirits to do their work for them.

6. Thus as I mentioned above, many of the above activities do not need (contrary to popular belief) one's birth date and time. As birth date and time as shown above, even if one is genuine; may be gotten wrongly.

7. For example, I don't believe that black magic practitioners are so educated nor use computing power nor a table or chart to re-calculate someone's birth timing accordingly. And many large countries have day-light saving hours... and one cannot expect the black magic person to be so conversant with the history of it.

8. The morale of the story is: If someone wants to place black magic on another; there are other alternatives as one's DD/MM/YYY/HHHH may not be 100 percent accurate.

8.1. And frankly, why should they be too concerned about your exact birth date? It is not like these black magic practitioners can go back in-time to change the course of history. What they care of is to "fix" the victim in the present.

9. If one is still so worried about giving one's time of birth than give it in the standard two hour range of the Chinese zodiac system e.g. 1 - 3; 3 - 5; 5 - 7; 7 - 9; 9 - 11 and then loop back to 1 -3 (either AM or PM). Thus one may give the birth-date as 1pm to 3pm instead of 1.39pm etc....

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On 9/8/2012 12:36:52 AM, Anonymous wrote:
As I heard that some people
might be able to cast black
magic on it based on the birth
date/time? is it true?I heard
there is alternative way for
providing time information,
for instance, let say the
birth time is 0234, just let
them know is between 0201 to
0259. But I'm not sure whether
will there be any difference.I
would wish to hear your advise
master.

[Cecil Lee]

Further to what I had mentioned, usually or often the person who initiates the black magic is someone close to the victim. (Sometimes, some people are not even aware that they are sleeping beside or rather with their enemy)
For example, it could be a jealous partner, a partner trying to control or change the vicitmor someone for what ever reason is seeking revenge etc...
The black magic person main aim is to make $$$$.
And often, one should look at one's own backyard. As 70 percent of the time; the initiator is often the person close to or formerly close to the victim.
The initiator is called the DOG; as like a dog, he/she will follow the instructions of the black magic practitioner to a "T". Thus if the black magic practitioner asks the DOG to eat shit; he/she will certainly eat-shit no questions asked. And with often with "insider" help; therefore, as I mentioned; don't even need one's time of birth (no less their DD/MM/YYYY). As the alternative can be the victim's personal posession or even not necessarily. As other methods include giving a potion to the victim etc....

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On 9/8/2012 1:04:59 AM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some considerations:
1. Take for example a tiny red
dot : Singapore. (Many
countries also have day-light
saving hours)
2. Even in Singapore's
history, if we really look or
dwell deeper into the
"recorded" birth-timing; one
will be amazed at the varied
range of "birth-timing".
3. For example, many of us
base our birth-time on our
birth-certificate. And for a
country like Singapore, I am
aware that birth-timing even
in those born in the 1930's
are recorded on their
birth-cert.
3.1. ?Standard Time? in Use in
Singapore Period in use Time
offset from GMT Reference
Meridian Name of Time
(unofficial) Until 1905 May 31
+ 6hr 55m 25s 103 51 16 E
Singapore Mean Time
==============================
========================1905
Jun 01 - 1932 Dec 31 + 7hr 00m
00s 105 00 00 E Standard Zone
Time 1933 Jan 01 - 1941 Aug 31
+ 7hr 20m 00s 110 00 00 E
Daylight Saving Time 1941 Sep
01 - 1942 Feb 15 + 7hr 30m 00s
112 30 00 E Daylight Saving
Time 1942 Feb 16 - 1945 Sep 12
+ 9hr 00m 00s 135 00 00 E
Tokyo Standard Time @ 1945 Sep
13 - 1981 Dec 31 + 7hr 30m 00s
112 30 00 E DST/MST/SST # @
1982 Jan 01 - Present + 8hr
00m 00s 120 00 00 E Singapore
Standard Time
Source and credit:
http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/asl
aksen/teaching/timezone.html
4. Why do I bring this up?
4.1. In the past, in
Singapore, many births
especially those born in rural
Singapore; often register
their birth-dates (and timing)
some even a few weeks later at
a municipal office.
4.2. Thus, especially for an
orphan or even those whose
parents don't disclose their
actual birth-dates; their ba
zi is as good as inaccurate
even if this is revealed to a
bomoh (black magic) person.
4.3. And common sense says
that even in a tiny red dot
(Singapore); even if someone
else wants to know or the
person accidentally reveals
his/her birth date and
especially timing; it can be
inaccurate.
5. Contrary to misconception:
black magic practitioners have
many tools in their "dirty
black bag".
5.1. Thus, do you think that
even without revealing one's
DD/MM/YYY/HHHH; such black
magic practitioners can even
go ahead and "Do it".
5.2. Black magic practitioners
use many tools or various
arsenals to place black magic
without the need of a
birth-date or even time of
birth:
5.2.1 Like some CSI shows;
they do swaps of a glass that
a person slips from. Black
magic practitioners don't use
this; but rather, some get
hold of things like the
"victim's hair or blood".
and/or
5.2.2 In relationships; a
jealous wife may be tasked to
get their partner to drink a
potion
and/or
5.2.3 Burn some charm and mix
these into a drink and/or
5.2.4 Some black magic persons
may even cultivate or control
some evil spirits : and as the
master, task these spirits to
do their work for them.
6. Thus as I mentioned above,
many of the above activities
do not need (contrary to
popular belief) one's birth
date and time. As birth date
and time as shown above, even
if one is genuine; may be
gotten wrongly.
7. For example, I don't
believe that black magic
practitioners are so educated
nor use computing power nor a
table or chart to re-calculate
someone's birth timing
accordingly. And many large
countries have day-light
saving hours... and one cannot
expect the black magic person
to be so conversant with the
history of it.
8. The morale of the story is:
If someone wants to place
black magic on another; there
are other alternatives as
one's DD/MM/YYY/HHHH may not
be 100 percent accurate.
8.1. And frankly, why should
they be too concerned about
your exact birth date? It is
not like these black magic
practitioners can go back
in-time to change the course
of history. What they care of
is to "fix" the victim in the
present.
9. If one is still so worried about
giving one's time of birth than give it
in the standard two hour range of the
Chinese zodiac system e.g. 1 - 3; 3 - 5;
5 - 7; 7 - 9; 9 - 11 and then loop back
to 1 -3 (either AM or PM). Thus one may
give the birth-date as 1pm to 3pm
instead of 1.39pm etc....On 9/8/2012
12:36:52 AM, With Helds wrote:
As I
heard that some people
might be able
to cast black
magic on it based on
the birth
date/time? is it true?I
heard
there is alternative way for
providing time information,
for
instance, let say the
birth time is
0234, just let
them know is between
0201 to
0259. But I'm not sure
whether
will there be any
difference.I
would wish to hear your
advise
master.

[myfs_151463]

Thank you master for your informative reply

[Cecil Lee]

If you want to, can furnish time of birth within a range. Such as:

1 to 2.59; am or pm

3 to 4.59; am or pm

5 to 6.59; am or pm

7 to 8.59; am or pm

9 to 10.59 am or pm

For example:-

Cannot be between 2pm to 5pm thus should be either:-

[   ] 1pm to 2.59pm or

[   ] 3pm to 4.59pm