myfs_154426 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Dear Master,I'm planning to do the ceremony to welcome the God of Wealth for this coming Chinese New Year.However, I'm clueless on how to go about it. Could you advise me on what to do - which direction and what offerings to make ?Thanks in advance ! Regards,MysticDragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 17, 2013 Staff Share Posted January 17, 2013 These are some considerations:1. This area has more to do with a belief of sorts.2. The key essence of this "exercise" is all about HOPE.3. Frankly, drawing a parallel, I can think of Father Christmas. Many young children (Catholic/Christian) have been told that they should hang e.g. a stocking ... 4. And this brings much excitement especially on the EVE of Christmas. (Sounds familiar?)5. Here, we are looking at the EVE of Chinese New Year. 5.1. And the equivalent of hanging e.g. a stocking with the hope of receiving a gift;5.2. Some belief that on the EVE of Chinese New Year; and in 2013, one should place "something" at SE "to invite" the God of Wealth to "bless".5.3. Thus, psychologically speaking, if you feel excited and happy to do so then, there are many, many, many ways of becoming happy:-6. Some (Invite God of Wealth) by asking one to place a bowl or receptacle with items that range from e.g. a bowl of uncooked rice or a bowl with 3 I-ching coins or bottles of unused drinking water at South-East sector.6.1. And most of the time: one is asked to place such an item at a certain timing e.g. usually 6 to 7 hours before mid-nite of the last day of the last lunar month which is the Eve of Chinese New Year.6.2. Other methods include, placing a bowl of rice or rice with 5 coins (to represent North, South, East, West and Centre of the House).7. Alternatively some advisers would ask you instead to place the bowl of "treasure" below your bed.8. In fact, there are lots (really lots of advice = dime a dozen). Where some say that there are lots of Wealth God: some say: There is the god of wealth related to business (Quan Gong) and another for children's studies.8.1 And some advisers say, it is not the eve of Chinese New Year but the 5th lunar day of Chinese New Year.9. In addition, in the Chinese myth;there are actually more different types of God of Wealth.10. Here, this is to give you a flavour that at least, I know of no less than or over at least 20 different practises.11. I like to come back to this main essence : HOPE. Some humans depend more on "literal" hope. As in doing some or one of the above: perhaps to feel good afterwards.12. Since there are so many different beliefs on how to invite the god of wealth... personally, having lived more than a decade on this earth, I have never ever done such things. And will always question the story about Father Christmas bringing real presents ......12.1 Could I have done better IF I HAD invited the GOD of Wealth? I don't think so. But, again, hey! If it makes YOU feel good, what the heck! Follow SOME of the Jones. As only some Jones do it. Many others don't. Quote On 1/16/2013 12:00:38 PM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Master,I'm planning to dothe ceremony to welcome theGod of Wealth for this comingChinese New Year.However, I'mclueless on how to go aboutit. Could you advise meon what to do - whichdirection and what offeringsto make ?Thanks in advance !Regards,MysticDragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 17, 2013 Staff Share Posted January 17, 2013 One can say that inviting God of Wealth or Cai Shen Ye is equivalent of trying to bring HOPE and Blessings into one's home.Here, if one where to slot this into one of the three holy trinity of luck: Heaven, Earth or Human (Man) Luck.It will certainly fit more into the area of Human (Man) Luck factor(s). Especially of perhaps feeling good factor ....Logically, what is the difference between say Christmas Blessings and God of Wealth Blessings. Quote On 1/17/2013 1:40:23 PM, Anonymous wrote:These are some considerations:1. This area has more to dowith a belief of sorts.2. The key essence of this"exercise" is all about HOPE.3. Frankly, drawing aparallel, I can think ofFather Christmas. Many youngchildren (Catholic/Christian)have been told that theyshould hang e.g. a stocking...4. And this brings muchexcitement especially on theEVE of Christmas. (Soundsfamiliar?)5. Here, we are looking at theEVE of Chinese New Year.5.1. And the equivalent ofhanging e.g. a stocking withthe hope of receiving a gift;5.2. Some belief that on theEVE of Chinese New Year; andin 2013, one should place"something" at SE "to invite"the God of Wealth to "bless".5.3. Thus, psychologicallyspeaking, if you feel excitedand happy to do so then, thereare many, many, many ways ofbecoming happy:-6. Some (Invite God of Wealth)by asking one to place a bowlor receptacle with items thatrange from e.g. a bowl ofuncooked rice or a bowl with 3I-ching coins or bottles ofunused drinking water atSouth-East sector.6.1. And most of the time: oneis asked to place such an itemat a certain timing e.g.usually 6 to 7 hours beforemid-nite of the last day ofthe last lunar month which isthe Eve of Chinese New Year.6.2. Other methods include,placing a bowl of rice or ricewith 5 coins (to representNorth, South, East, West andCentre of the House).7. Alternatively some adviserswould ask you instead to placethe bowl of "treasure" belowyour bed.8. In fact, there are lots(really lots of advice = dimea dozen). Where some say thatthere are lots of Wealth God:some say: There is the god ofwealth related to business(Quan Gong) and another forchildren's studies.8.1 And some advisers say, itis not the eve of Chinese NewYear but the 5th lunar day ofChinese New Year.9. In addition, in the Chinesemyth;there are actuallymore different types of God ofWealth.10. Here, this is to give youa flavour that at least, Iknow of no less than or overat least 20 differentpractises.11. I like to come back tothis main essence : HOPE. Somehumans depend more on"literal" hope. As in doingsome or one of the above:perhaps to feel goodafterwards.12. Since there are so many differentbeliefs on how to invite the god ofwealth... personally, having lived morethan a decade on this earth, I havenever ever done such things. And willalways question the story about FatherChristmas bringing real presents......12.1 Could I have done better IF IHAD invited the GOD of Wealth? I don'tthink so. But, again, hey! If it makesYOU feel good, what the heck! FollowSOME of the Jones. As only some Jones doit. Many others don't.On 1/16/201312:00:38 PM, Mystic Dragon wrote:Dear Master,I'm planning to dothe ceremony to welcome theGodof Wealth for this comingChineseNew Year.However, I'mclueless onhow to go aboutit. Could youadvise meon what to do - whichdirection and what offeringstomake ?Thanks in advance !Regards,MysticDragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 17, 2013 Staff Share Posted January 17, 2013 The only thing that is similar is that God of Wealth (Cai Shen Ye) is that he is suppose to arrive close to mid-nite.On the safe side, one is told to give around 6 to 7 hours allowance. Thus, if one was told to place a bowl of e.g. rice or bottles of drinking water; one should do it 6 to 7 hours before mid-nite of either Chinese New Year's eve or on the eve of the 4th day of Chinese New Year.So how come some say, there is one God of Wealth and it should be eve of Chinese New Year. While others say that there are lots of different Gods of Wealth. And some even say he comes on the 5th day of Chinese New Year!Which is which? Why so confusing. Why so many practises which does not add up to each other?Does it matter? So long that it satisfies some person's HOPES and Aspirations and for some who see that they have been showered with BLESSINGS! Ain't this good enough for that person. Who knows no wiser! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 17, 2013 Staff Share Posted January 17, 2013 1. By coincidence, this subject was just published, today:- http://www.tremeritus.com/2013/01/17/a-politically-motivated-education-system/ 2. Although the actual subject matter is not exactly the same as this topic. 3. What it bears resemblance is that one can say that there might be I believe a modern motive for it. 4. In the past, correct me if I am wrong, some even said that Jesus is not actually born on 25 December or Christmas day. He is suppose to be born on another date. 5. As we all know, even in a tiny island like Singapore, almost every year; the Christmas spirit gets kinda earlier and earlier. In fact, in many Shopping malls, Christmas decorations come up as early as mid-October and early November. 6. What this tells us is that, today in modern times, I believe Christmas is highly commercialised. And one of the objectives is profit driven. Who cares if Santa is just a man, dressed in an oversized stuffed clothing with a false wig and hat... Who cares if Santa is not real. So long as "Santa" can drum up business for me this is fine. 7. Drawing a parallel to the Chinese "God of Wealth". Many who drum up the God of Wealth is into trying to make a buck or two. There are people selling posters, figurines and anything else in the name of the God of Wealth. Again, I believe the motive is commercial. 8. Is it true that when we hang a large red sock in our room or at the fire place, Santa will sure to find our house and deposit a gift? 9. Same here! For example in Singapore, just one estate: the recent By-Election: Punggol SMC has 30,000+ homes. How does the God of Wealth know which home has offered an offering to him? 9.1 Even if the God of Wealth multi-tasks; he may need lots of super computer to detect a few homes out of several millions that has placed an offering to him. 9.2 Look at it this way, more likely, few if ever placed an offering to him anyway. Does it also mean that if he visits a home expecting to find an offering but none provided? What do you think he will do? Get extremely angry with that household?9.3. Furthermore, God of Wealth is suppose to originate from China. And some claim that they are pre-Tang dynasty individuals who were elevated to the title of God of Wealth. 9.4 And since Singapore is in the Far East, does it mean that every year, the God of Wealth would travel e.g. First Class on China airlines to Singapore and visit those homes that placed an offering to him. 10. What do you think?11. Therefore, I personally feel that both Christmas and God of Wealth is highly commercialised, today. No joke!12. Again, for those who want to believe; if it makes you happy and hopeful, go ahead... since it may be a positive thing for you. Quote On 1/17/2013 3:16:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:The only thing that is similaris that God of Wealth (CaiShen Ye) is that he is supposeto arrive close to mid-nite.Onthe safe side, one is told togive around 6 to 7 hoursallowance. Thus, if one wastold to place a bowl of e.g.rice or bottles of drinkingwater; one should do it 6 to 7hours before mid-nite ofeither Chinese New Year's eveor on the eve of the 4th dayof Chinese New Year.So howcome some say, there is oneGod of Wealth and it should beeve of Chinese New Year. Whileothers say that there are lotsof different Gods of Wealth.And some even say he comes onthe 5th day of Chinese NewYear!Which is which? Why soconfusing. Why so manypractises which does not addup to each other?Does itmatter? So long that itsatisfies some person's HOPESand Aspirations and for somewho see that they have beenshowered with BLESSINGS! Ain'tthis good enough for thatperson. Who knows no wiser! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_154426 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Dear Master, Thanks for the advice ! Quote On 1/17/2013 10:50:08 PM, Anonymous wrote: 1. By coincidence, this subject was just published, today:- http://www.tremeritus.com/2013 /01/17/a-politically-motivated -education-system/ 2. Although the actual subject matter is not exactly the same as this topic. 3. What it bears resemblance is that one can say that there might be I believe a modern motive for it. 4. In the past, correct me if I am wrong, some even said that Jesus is not actually born on 25 December or Christmas day. He is suppose to be born on another date. 5. As we all know, even in a tiny island like Singapore, almost every year; the Christmas spirit gets kinda earlier and earlier. In fact, in many Shopping malls, Christmas decorations come up as early as mid-October and early November. 6. What this tells us is that, today in modern times, I believe Christmas is highly commercialised. And one of the objectives is profit driven. Who cares if Santa is just a man, dressed in an oversized stuffed clothing with a false wig and hat... Who cares if Santa is not real. So long as "Santa" can drum up business for me this is fine. 7. Drawing a parallel to the Chinese "God of Wealth". Many who drum up the God of Wealth is into trying to make a buck or two. There are people selling posters, figurines and anything else in the name of the God of Wealth. Again, I believe the motive is commercial. 8. Is it true that when we hang a large red sock in our room or at the fire place, Santa will sure to find our house and deposit a gift? 9. Same here! For example in Singapore, just one estate: the recent By-Election: Punggol SMC has 30,000+ homes. How does the God of Wealth know which home has offered an offering to him? 9.1 Even if the God of Wealth multi-tasks; he may need lots of super computer to detect a few homes out of several millions that has placed an offering to him. 9.2 Look at it this way, more likely, few if ever placed an offering to him anyway. Does it also mean that if he visits a home expecting to find an offering but none provided? What do you think he will do? Get extremely angry with that household?9.3. Furthermore, God of Wealth is suppose to originate from China. And some claim that they are pre-Tang dynasty individuals who were elevated to the title of God of Wealth. 9.4 And since Singapore is in the Far East, does it mean that every year, the God of Wealth would travel e.g. First Class on China airlines to Singapore and visit those homes that placed an offering to him. 10. What do you think?11. Therefore, I personally feel that both Christmas and God of Wealth is highly commercialised, today. No joke!12. Again, for those who want to believe; if it makes you happy and hopeful, go ahead... since it may be a positive thing for you.On 1/17/2013 3:16:30 PM, Cecil Lee wrote: The only thing that is similar is that God of Wealth (Cai Shen Ye) is that he is suppose to arrive close to mid-nite.On the safe side, one is told to give around 6 to 7 hours allowance. Thus, if one was told to place a bowl of e.g. rice or bottles of drinking water; one should do it 6 to 7 hours before mid-nite of either Chinese New Year's eve or on the eve of the 4th day of Chinese New Year.So how come some say, there is one God of Wealth and it should be eve of Chinese New Year. While others say that there are lots of different Gods of Wealth. And some even say he comes on the 5th day of Chinese New Year!Which is which? Why so confusing. Why so many practises which does not add up to each other?Does it matter? So long that it satisfies some person's HOPES and Aspirations and for some who see that they have been showered with BLESSINGS! Ain't this good enough for that person. Who knows no wiser! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 11, 2019 Staff Share Posted November 11, 2019 Previously wrote: "6.2. Other methods include, placing a bowl of rice or rice with 5 coins (to represent North, South, East, West and Centre of the House)." Case Study: The Five (5) ghosts can also refer to the Five (5) spirits that some Chinese consider in each home:- 1. Spirit of the North, 2. Spirit of the South, 3. Spirit of the East, 4. Spirit of the West, 5. Spirit of the Centre of the home. = Total of Five (5) good spirits. Under this definition, these spirits are considered good spirits. And not associated with real ghosts: where in real life, there can be a mixture of both good and BAD (evil) Ghosts! If one sees clearly, these spirits in my illustration each holds a heart . LOL This is why we often see five type of fruits and often five oranges, five applies, five tea cups displayed to make these 5 spirits, happy! Note: Above is simply an illustration without really associating with the exact magnetic compass readings! It's the symbolism that is important, here. Related link:- https://www.geomancy.net/forums/topic/3131-what-is-the-five-ghosts/?tab=comments#comment-6743 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 11, 2019 Staff Share Posted November 11, 2019 Related resource: https://www.geomancy.net/forums/topic/17659-when-do-i-start-work-on-chinese-new-year-cny-2020-when-you-open-what-is-2020s-rat-year-forecast-like/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted November 11, 2019 Staff Share Posted November 11, 2019 Hope can be considered as some kind of "fix" or medicine! Hope sees many clinging to it. And often, it is the cause of less suicides... LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 8, 2020 Staff Share Posted October 8, 2020 An interesting interpretation of placing a wealth bowl at a wealth sector In Summary 1. This area is closely linked to a specific set of beliefs or factors related to human luck or fortune. Related: What is Human or Man Luck? 2. The fundamental purpose of this "activity" revolves around OPTIMISM. 3. To be honest, when I draw a comparison, I can think of Santa Claus. Many young children (Catholic/Christian) have been instructed to hang, for example, a stocking ... 4. And this generates a great deal of excitement, particularly on the NIGHT before Christmas. (Sound familiar?) 5. Here, we are focusing on the NIGHT before Chinese New Year. 5.1. And the equivalent of hanging, for example, a stocking with the hope of receiving a gift; 5.2. Some belief that on the NIGHT before Chinese New Year; and in 2013, one should place "something" at SE "to invite" the God of Wealth to "bless". 5.3. Therefore, from a psychological perspective, if you feel excited and happy to do so, then there are many, many, many ways of becoming happy: - 6. Some (Invite God of Wealth) by instructing one to place a bowl or receptacle with items that range from, for example, a bowl of uncooked rice or a bowl with 3 I-ching coins or bottles of unused drinking water at South-East sector. 6.1. And most of the time: one is asked to place such an item at a certain timing, for example, usually 6 to 7 hours before midnight of the last day of the last lunar month which is the Night of Chinese New Year. 6.2. Other methods include, placing a bowl of rice or rice with 5 coins (to represent North, South, East, West and Centre of the House). 7. Alternatively, some advisors would instruct you instead to place the bowl of "treasure" under your bed. 8. In fact, there are numerous (really numerous pieces of advice = dime a dozen). Where some say that there are numerous Wealth Gods: some say: There is the god of wealth related to business (Quan Gong) and another for children's studies. 8.1 And some advisors say, it is not the night of Chinese New Year but the 5th lunar day of Chinese New Year. 9. Additionally, in Chinese mythology, there are actually various types of God of Wealth. 10. Here, this is to give you an idea that at least, I am aware of no less than or over at least 20 different practices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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