myfs_151908 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Dear Master,I am looking at the free talk note to search for the element for certain business but am not able to find it. I would like to ask for your opinion on what element belong to a business that buy products at a low price and sell to household by going door to door or in the market or shops. In another words it is like trading but will be employing people in the selling process. Thank you very much.Warmest regards.Steven Ling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 22, 2013 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2013 These are some considerations:1. In the field of strategic management; we can look at it from two levels:1.1. The Industry1.2. The job function.2. Thus; for example; some industries are clear-cut e.g. a car maker is considered as Metal industry. So does a Bank = Metal.3. But as most of us know; even within an Industry; there are various job functions.3.1. Thus, if one is is in Customer relations; then it is earth element; 3.2. If in Marketing and sales; then fire element.4. As you have not clearly mentioned what you are selling; or may be too diverse to fall into a specific category; then no worries, also. As contrary to popular belief; some industries can be diverse and need not belong to just one element!4.1. In general; those going door to door are often considered as belonging to the "Fire element."5. But if you are the boss; then most likely your element may be considered as "Wood" i.e. to grow the company. Quote On 10/22/2013 1:07:31 PM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Master,I am looking atthe free talk note to searchfor the element for certainbusiness but am not able tofind it. I would like to askfor your opinion on whatelement belong to a businessthat buy products at a lowprice and sell to household bygoing door to door or in themarket or shops. In anotherwords it is like trading butwill be employing people inthe selling process. Thank youvery much.Warmestregards.Steven Ling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_151908 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Dear Master,Thank you for your previous time and valuable opinion.You mentioned about consideration on the job function and industry. May I give an example to see if I understand you correctly. Lets say a negative fire person who need wood and fire as his favourable elements and earth being not favourable. If this person were to set up a real estate agency mainly dealing with sales and marketing and strategic management of the company. Does this mean that his job function is more fire and wood element rather then earth since the product is real estate? Thank you.RegardsSteven ling Quote On 10/22/2013 3:17:35 PM, Anonymous wrote:These are some considerations:1. In the field of strategicmanagement; we can look at itfrom two levels:1.1. The Industry1.2. The jobfunction.2. Thus; for example; someindustries are clear-cut e.g.a car maker is considered asMetal industry. So does a Bank= Metal.3. But as most of us know;even within an Industry; thereare various job functions.3.1. Thus, if one is is inCustomer relations; then it isearth element;3.2. If in Marketing andsales; then fire element.4. As you have not clearly mentionedwhat you are selling; or may be toodiverse to fall into a specificcategory; then no worries, also. Ascontrary to popular belief; someindustries can be diverse and need notbelong to just one element!4.1. Ingeneral; those going door to door areoften considered as belonging to the"Fire element."5. But if you are theboss; then most likely your element maybe considered as "Wood" i.e. to grow thecompany.On 10/22/2013 1:07:31 PM, Stevenling wrote: >Dear Master,I am lookingat >the free talk note to searchfor the element for certainbusiness but am not able to >findit. I would like to ask >for youropinion on what >element belong to abusiness >that buy products at a lowprice and sell to household bygoing door to door or in themarket or shops. In anotherwords it is like trading butwill be employing people in >theselling process. Thank you >verymuch.Warmest >regards.Steven Ling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2013 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2013 In my opinion, you have to see where your core function is.For example, in the past, I mentioned : CEO's key function.Although a CEO may be in-charge of say:Accounting, Human Resource, Sales & Marketing, Operations Management; overall his key function is to GROW the company. Thus this CEO's core function may be considered as Wood element.Strategic Management => Wood element. Since, the key function is to grow the company. Using whatever tools e.g. Porter's Five Forces, SWOT analysis and what not.If one is either in Sales or Marketing; then it is Fire element. For a weak fire person; of course, based on the Five Elements concept: having WOOD is the first choice. While fire is like adding fire to fire. Not as potent as using WOOD to fuel fire.Thus, even in this area; so called doing more of CEO role or Team Leader function is considered a better choice for a weak wood person. While Sales and Marketing is not that significant as WOOD. If you get what I mean. Quote On 10/25/2013 1:32:19 PM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Master,Thank you for yourprevious time and valuableopinion.You mentioned aboutconsideration on the job function andindustry. May I give an example tosee if I understand you correctly. Letssay a negative fire person who need woodand fire as his favourable elements andearth being not favourable. Ifthis person were to set up a real estateagency mainly dealing with sales andmarketing and strategic management ofthe company. Does this mean that his jobfunction is more fire and wood elementrather then earth since the product isreal estate? Thankyou.RegardsSteven lingOn 10/22/20133:17:35 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:These are some considerations:1. In the field of strategicmanagement; we can look at itfrom two levels:1.1. The Industry1.2. The jobfunction.2. Thus; for example; someindustries are clear-cut e.g.a car maker is considered asMetal industry. So does a Bank= Metal.3. But as most of us know;even within an Industry; thereare various job functions.3.1. Thus, if one is is inCustomer relations; then it isearth element;3.2. If in Marketing andsales; then fire element.4. As you have not clearly mentionedwhat you are selling; or may be toodiverse to fall into a specificcategory; then no worries, also. Ascontrary to popular belief; someindustries can be diverse and neednotbelong to just one element!4.1. Ingeneral; those going door to doorareoften considered as belonging to the"Fire element."5. But if you are theboss; then most likely your elementmaybe considered as "Wood" i.e. to growthecompany.On 10/22/2013 1:07:31 PM,Stevenling wrote:Dear Master,I amlookingatthe free talk note to searchfor the element for certainbusiness but am not able tofindit. I would like to askfor youropinion on whatelement belongto abusinessthat buy products at alowprice and sell to household bygoing door to door or in themarket or shops. In anotherwords it is like trading butwill be employing people intheselling process. Thank youverymuch.Warmestregards.Steven Ling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2013 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2013 Under the productive sequence under the Five Elements concept; Please see attached illustration. It is more "potent" to use wood to fuel fire vs just adding fire to fire. Although both are good for a weak fire person. Wood would be considered a "top choice" or first choice - if possible. Quote On 10/25/2013 2:57:40 PM, Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, you have to see whereyour core function is.For example, inthe past, I mentioned : CEO's keyfunction.Although a CEO may be in-chargeof say:Accounting, Human Resource, Sales& Marketing, Operations Management;overall his key function is to GROW thecompany. Thus this CEO's core functionmay be considered as Woodelement.Strategic Management =Woodelement. Since, the key function is togrow the company. Using whatever toolse.g. Porter's Five Forces, SWOT analysisand what not.If one is either in Salesor Marketing; then it is Fire element.For a weak fire person; of course, basedon the Five Elements concept: havingWOOD is the first choice. While fire islike adding fire to fire. Not as potentas using WOOD to fuel fire.Thus, even inthis area; so called doing more of CEOrole or Team Leader function isconsidered a better choice for a weakwood person. While Sales and Marketingis not that significant as WOOD. If youget what I mean.On 10/25/2013 1:32:19PM, Steven ling wrote:DearMaster,Thank you for yourprevious time and valuableopinion.You mentioned aboutconsideration on the job functionandindustry. May I give anexample tosee if I understand youcorrectly. Letssay a negative fireperson who need woodand fire as hisfavourable elements andearth beingnot favourable. Ifthis personwere to set up a real estateagencymainly dealing with sales andmarketing and strategic managementofthe company. Does this mean thathis jobfunction is more fire andwood elementrather then earth sincethe product isreal estate?Thankyou.RegardsSteven lingOn10/22/20133:17:35 PM, Cecil Leewrote:These are someconsiderations:1. In the fieldof strategicmanagement; we canlook at itfrom two levels:1.1. The Industry1.2. The jobfunction.2. Thus; forexample; someindustries areclear-cut e.g.a car maker isconsidered asMetal industry. Sodoes a Bank= Metal.3.But as most of us know;evenwithin an Industry; therearevarious job functions.3.1.Thus, if one is is inCustomerrelations; then it isearthelement;3.2. If in Marketingandsales; then fire element.4. As you have not clearlymentionedwhat you are selling;or may be toodiverse to fallinto a specificcategory; thenno worries, also. Ascontrary topopular belief; someindustriescan be diverse and neednotbelong to just one element!4.1.Ingeneral; those going door todoorareoften considered asbelonging to the"Fireelement."5. But if you are theboss; then most likely yourelementmaybe considered as"Wood" i.e. to growthecompany.On 10/22/2013 1:07:31PM,Stevenling wrote:Dear Master,I amlookingatthe free talk note tosearchfor the element forcertainbusiness but am notable tofindit. I wouldlike to askfor youropinionon whatelement belongto abusinessthat buy productsat alowprice and sellto household bygoing doorto door or in themarket orshops. In anotherwords itis like trading butwill beemploying people intheselling process. Thank youverymuch.Warmestregards.Steven Ling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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