Tong Shu (Tong = all & Shu refers to book) vs Ba Zi Ausp. Dates

[Cecil Lee]

With reference to this thread:-
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=33565&new=
This simple chart shows the key differences between dates obtained from the Tung Shu vs Ba Zi.
Note "Shu" refers simply to a book. Thus Tung Shu is simple a reference book that is produced annually. And published sometime around the 7th Chinese month for the next year.

[Cecil Lee]

Which method suits me?
A. Tung Shu
Usually if a home still has a dominantmatriarch. Who has a say or expectations and has always relied only on the Tung Shu method; then best to please this matriarch. As often, this matriarch would have the means to look at / refer to or get someone familar with the Tung Shu to select the dates.
B. Ba Zi
If you are a couple who does not have a "matriarch" breathing down your neck. Often, this group of persons or couples would approach a professional geomancer. And often most geomancers would require YYYY/MM/DD/HHHH. If so, they would often apply Ba Zi to select dates. Of course, there are still some geomancers or road-side fortune tellers who use the simplistic Tung Shu (book).
Again, there is no right or wrong answers, here.
It is similar to Numerology. Some use one method, another use another method. But do note that often, as mentioned, personalised dates may "clash" with those obtained from the Tung Shui.

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On 6/3/2014 7:44:59 PM, Anonymous wrote:
With reference to this
thread:-http://forum.geomancy.
net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2
&fid=1&mid=33565&new=This
simple chart shows the key
differences between dates
obtained from the Tung Shu vs
Ba Zi.Note "Shu" refers simply
to a book. Thus Tung Shu is
simple a reference book that
is produced annually. And
published sometime around the
7th Chinese month for the next
year.

[Cecil Lee]

Tong Shu can be considered as the equivalent of taking an X-ray.
While Ba Zi dates is equivalent of an MRI scan.
Another way of looking at it is : Tung Shu is equivalent standard to a Bachelor's degree. While Ba Zi is equivalent to a Master's degree.
Both are considered as a degree. But Master's degree is higher than a bachelor's degree.
All these could change if one is like a matriarch of a family and her first choice is that of the Tung Shu. If a person is more inclined towards the Tung Shu; then best to have a bias for this. And forgo the ba zi method if one cannot reconcile or prefer the comfort zone of the Tung Shu as one's bible.
In the end of the day, it is all about feeling good or comfortable and don't look back.
Another way of looking at it is that if you prefer to drive a 1970's mercedes 200. Such a car does not have all the electronics. Then go ahead with just this Tung Shu method.
However, if one is into lots of electronics and gadgets of modern cars: ABS, DCS, auto-start-stop brake, hill-assist, 8 auto-gears etc.. then this is equivalent of the ba zi method.

 

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On 6/3/2014 8:05:33 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Which method suits me?A. Tung ShuUsually
if a home still has a
dominantmatriarch. Who has a say
or expectations and has always relied
only on the Tung Shu method; then best
to please this matriarch. As often, this
matriarch would have the means to look
at / refer to or get someone familar
with the Tung Shu to select the dates.B.
Ba ZiIf you are a couple who does not
have a "matriarch" breathing down your
neck. Often, this group of persons or
couples would approach a professional
geomancer. And often most geomancers
would require YYYY/MM/DD/HHHH. If so,
they would often apply Ba Zi to select
dates. Of course, there are still some
geomancers or road-side fortune tellers
who use the simplistic Tung Shu
(book).Again, there is no right or
wrong answers, here.It is similar to
Numerology. Some use one method, another
use another method. But do note that
often, as mentioned, personalised dates
may "clash" with those obtained from the
Tung Shui.On 6/3/2014 7:44:59 PM, Cecil
Lee wrote:
With reference to this
thread:-http://forum.geomancy.
net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2
&fid=1&mid=33565&new=This
simple chart shows the key
differences between dates
obtained from the Tung Shu vs
Ba Zi.Note "Shu" refers simply
to a book. Thus Tung Shu is
simple a reference book that
is produced annually. And
published sometime around the
7th Chinese month for the next
year.

[Cecil Lee]