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We are building a new home and since the walls and roof are up, I wanted to take a reading from the front door. My dilemma is that standing inside the front door, I get a reading of 154 South, taking one step out of the front door, onto the outside landing, I get a reading of 132 SE. The actual door is not in yet and no tiles have been placed on the outside steps - would adding these really make a difference to the reading? I would think the front door is still in the same place, so why am I getting such a large difference in readings?
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These are some considerations:-

Part 1: Hopefully, the home has a properly drawn architect/draftman's plan.

If so, there should be a North marking on it.

Most of the time, this North marking is accurate. However, in some instances, it may not be accurate.




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On 5/5/2015 11:38:08 PM, Anonymous wrote:
We are building a new home and
since the walls and roof are
up, I wanted to take a reading
from the front door. My
dilemma is that standing
inside the front door, I get a
reading of 154 South, taking
one step out of the front
door, onto the outside
landing, I get a reading of
132 SE. The actual door is not
in yet and no tiles have been
placed on the outside steps -
would adding these really make
a difference to the reading? I
would think the front door is
still in the same place, so
why am I getting such a large
difference in readings?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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This link shows a Suunto compass that was "balanced for zone 3". Countries that are around the equator:--

http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=12503&new=



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On 5/6/2015 12:50:07 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Part II: Yes, it is very common when
using an ordinary compass to get mixed
compass readings.Often, this is due to
things like re-enforced steel rebar
embedded into the concrete structure
i.e. flooring or walls etc...In modern
times; if one can get hold of a printed
streetdirectory or an electronic one (as
shown in the sample)One will notice that
all street directories have the North
0/360 degrees on the top of the
page.Even google maps have this
geographical north marking in this
format.At the equator; the geographical
north and magnetic north is very close
and are nearly identical.In Canada, the
geographical north and magnetic north
varies a few degrees. But, this is
better than having wide fluctuations in
compass readings.A professional compass
like the Suunto brand makes compass for
different regions. For example:
countries in the equator; they sell one
for "region 3" that is for Singapore,
Malaysia, Thailand and all countries at
the equator.For Canada, should be region
1. And countries like some parts of the
US e.g.Texas etc..is based on a compass
configured for say region 2.Anyway, I
don't think you do have or would need
such a compass if one needs it for just
one instance.Thus, you should try to use
the streetdirectory or if googlemap
captures the outline of your home's
building, print it and use a protractor
to get the compass direction. Similar to
shown in the attachment.On 5/6/2015
12:32:30 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
These
are some considerations:-Part
1:
Hopefully, the home has a properly
drawn
architect/draftman's plan. If
so, there
should be a North marking
on it.Most of
the time, this North
marking is
accurate. However, in some
instances, it
may not be accurate.On
5/5/2015 11:38:08
PM, Anonymous
wrote:
We are building
a new home
and
since the walls and
roof
are
up, I wanted to take
a
reading
from the front
door.
My
dilemma is that
standing
inside
the front door, I
get a
reading of
154 South,
taking
one step out of
the
front
door, onto
the
outside
landing, I get a
reading
of
132 SE. The actual door
is
not
in yet and no tiles
have
been
placed on the outside
steps
-
would adding these really
make
a
difference to the reading?
I
would
think the front door
is
still in the
same place,
so
why am I getting such
a
large
difference in
readings?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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Part II: Yes, it is very common when using an ordinary compass to get mixed compass readings.

Often, this is due to things like re-enforced steel rebar embedded into the concrete structure i.e. flooring or walls etc...

In modern times; if one can get hold of a printed streetdirectory or an electronic one (as shown in the sample)

One will notice that all street directories have the North 0/360 degrees on the top of the page.

Even google maps have this geographical north marking in this format.

At the equator; the geographical north and magnetic north is very close and are nearly identical.

In Canada, the geographical north and magnetic north varies a few degrees. But, this is better than having wide fluctuations in compass readings.

A professional compass like the Suunto brand makes compass for different regions. For example: countries in the equator; they sell one for "region 3" that is for Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and all countries at the equator.

For Canada, should be region 1 and most parts of USA is also within region or zone 1.

Anyway, I don't think you do have or would need such a compass if one needs it for just one instance.

Thus, you should try to use the streetdirectory or if googlemap captures the outline of your home's building, print it and use a protractor to get the compass direction. Similar to shown in the attachment.


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On 5/6/2015 12:32:30 AM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some considerations:-Part 1:
Hopefully, the home has a properly drawn
architect/draftman's plan. If so, there
should be a North marking on it.Most of
the time, this North marking is
accurate. However, in some instances, it
may not be accurate.On 5/5/2015 11:38:08
PM, Anonymous wrote:
We are building
a new home and
since the walls and
roof are
up, I wanted to take a
reading
from the front door.
My
dilemma is that standing
inside
the front door, I get a
reading of
154 South, taking
one step out of the
front
door, onto the
outside
landing, I get a reading
of
132 SE. The actual door is
not
in yet and no tiles have
been
placed on the outside steps
-
would adding these really make
a
difference to the reading? I
would
think the front door is
still in the
same place, so
why am I getting such
a large
difference in readings?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net
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Thank you Cecil, we purchased an old home and demolished it & rebuilt, therefore, google shows the old home not the one we just built.....I suppose I can wait until more of the house is finished but I wanted to get a proper reading to help me choose colors and even materials of the finishings depending on the stars....




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On 5/6/2015 12:54:15 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Part II: Yes, it is very common when
using an ordinary compass to get mixed
compass readings.Often, this is due to
things like re-enforced steel rebar
embedded into the concrete structure
i.e. flooring or walls etc...In modern
times; if one can get hold of a printed
streetdirectory or an electronic one (as
shown in the sample)One will notice that
all street directories have the North
0/360 degrees on the top of the
page.Even google maps have this
geographical north marking in this
format.At the equator; the geographical
north and magnetic north is very close
and are nearly identical.In Canada, the
geographical north and magnetic north
varies a few degrees. But, this is
better than having wide fluctuations in
compass readings.A professional compass
like the Suunto brand makes compass for
different regions. For example:
countries in the equator; they sell one
for "region 3" that is for Singapore,
Malaysia, Thailand and all countries at
the equator.For Canada, should be region
1 and most parts of USA is also within
region or zone 1.Anyway, I don't think
you do have or would need such a compass
if one needs it for just one
instance.Thus, you should try to use the
streetdirectory or if googlemap captures
the outline of your home's building,
print it and use a protractor to get the
compass direction. Similar to shown in
the attachment.On 5/6/2015 12:32:30 AM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are some
considerations:-Part 1:
Hopefully,
the home has a properly
drawn
architect/draftman's plan. If
so, there
should be a North marking
on it.Most of
the time, this North
marking is
accurate. However, in some
instances, it
may not be accurate.On
5/5/2015 11:38:08
PM, Anonymous
wrote:
We are building
a new home
and
since the walls and
roof
are
up, I wanted to take
a
reading
from the front
door.
My
dilemma is that
standing
inside
the front door, I
get a
reading of
154 South,
taking
one step out of
the
front
door, onto
the
outside
landing, I get a
reading
of
132 SE. The actual door
is
not
in yet and no tiles
have
been
placed on the outside
steps
-
would adding these really
make
a
difference to the reading?
I
would
think the front door
is
still in the
same place,
so
why am I getting such
a
large
difference in
readings?

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Yes, if google map does show the outline of your new home; you can use the method I mentioned earlier via a protractor to determine the correct facing direction of a home.

Even if one is standing on an empty land try to take a few readings as sometimes there may be metal objects embedded in the hidden ground. Things like a manhole cover can give off false reading.

Or a concrete path which often has a metal mesh to strengthen it. Anything with metal is detrimental to the compass reading.

Alternatively, as mentioned previously; you couldseek help from the architectural firm to provide you with the blueprint of your home. Mostof such blueprint should actually have a North marking on it.

Or the sales brochure listing the entire estate may also have such a marking.


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On 5/6/2015 1:18:10 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Thank you Cecil, we purchased an old
home and demolished it & rebuilt,
therefore, google shows the old home not
the one we just built.....I suppose I
can wait until more of the house is
finished but I wanted to get a proper
reading to help me choose colors and
even materials of the finishings
depending on the stars....On 5/6/2015
12:54:15 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
Part
II: Yes, it is very common when
using
an ordinary compass to get
mixed
compass readings.Often, this is
due to
things like re-enforced steel
rebar
embedded into the concrete
structure
i.e. flooring or walls
etc...In modern
times; if one can get
hold of a printed
streetdirectory or
an electronic one (as
shown in the
sample)One will notice that
all
street directories have the
North
0/360 degrees on the top of
the
page.Even google maps have
this
geographical north marking in
this
format.At the equator; the
geographical
north and magnetic north
is very close
and are nearly
identical.In Canada, the
geographical
north and magnetic north
varies a few
degrees. But, this is
better than
having wide fluctuations in
compass
readings.A professional compass
like
the Suunto brand makes compass
for
different regions. For
example:
countries in the equator;
they sell one
for "region 3" that is
for Singapore,
Malaysia, Thailand and
all countries at
the equator.For
Canada, should be region
1 and most
parts of USA is also within
region or
zone 1.Anyway, I don't think
you do
have or would need such a compass
if
one needs it for just
one
instance.Thus, you should try to
use the
streetdirectory or if
googlemap captures
the outline of
your home's building,
print it and
use a protractor to get the
compass
direction. Similar to shown in
the
attachment.On 5/6/2015 12:32:30
AM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are
some
considerations:-Part
1:
Hopefully,
the home has a
properly
drawn
architect/draftman'
s plan. If
so, there
should be a
North marking
on it.Most of
the
time, this North
marking
is
accurate. However, in
some
instances, it
may not be
accurate.On
5/5/2015 11:38:08
PM,
Anonymous
wrote:
We are
building
a new home
and
since
the walls and
roof
are
up, I
wanted to take
a
reading
from
the front
door.
My
dilemma is
that
standing
inside
the front
door, I
get a
reading of
154
South,
taking
one step out
of
the
front
door,
onto
the
outside
landing, I get
a
reading
of
132 SE. The actual
door
is
not
in yet and no
tiles
have
been
placed on the
outside
steps
-
would adding
these really
make
a
difference
to the reading?
I
would
think
the front door
is
still in
the
same place,
so
why am I
getting such
a
large
difference
in
readings?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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Standing on these road tiles also no guarantee of correct compass readings. 

As often below the sand, there are also reinforced metal rods. And in this case taking a reading above a manhole cover or even a few feet away also may yield mixed compass readings.C74290ED-7746-4E72-8C2B-C9352A693FD2.thumb.jpeg.45f34a2ce7ea8c37d8f1f248d07c3b72.jpegBDA753FE-92D3-4DE1-BD64-6FF768584517.thumb.jpeg.b07d1e84f8f5811ed85f5aeb8fac471d.jpeg

The workmen managed to cover the spot in an hour or so....6AFAC7BA-383E-4D41-81F6-B6F08772CC39.thumb.jpeg.095831cda67dc8e487017975082e5a25.jpeg


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