How to be in 'constant contact with Earth'?

[myfs_106913]

My Career report says I cannot benefit from certain jobs unless I am in "constant contact with Earth". Can you please explain to me how do I go about doing that? Is it standing on the ground? (aren't we always doing that?) Or is it working in an Earth industry? Or is it wear Earth-coloured clothes?? What does it mean to be in "constant contact with Earth"?

[Cecil Lee]

1. The field of Strategic Management is a good example.

2. For example: in general you could be working in an industry related to? Earth.

2.1 For example; some of the common Earth element industries are:

Building Management,
Customer relations,
Civil engineering,
Clothing,
Construction,
Customer Relations,
Employee Relations,
Estate Agency,
Farming,
Food industry,
Games,
Pottery,
Real Estate, Recruitment, Sports

2.2 Reference: http://talk.geomancy.net

3. Thus, on a MACRO level, one could be an accountant e.g. Metal element but working in a Construction firm.

3.1. Here, it is said that this person is in constant contact with Earth element: a construction firm.

3.2. On a MICRO level, one may be associated with Earth if it is one of the person's best elements. But it does mean that you have to carry a full-pack full of bricks everywhere you go. If one is a recruit in the army on a force-march; then no choice; go ahead and carry that full-pack of bricks or sand or stone. Most likely, if so, in a few years time... better change name to "Hunchback of Notredame"

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On 7/14/2015 10:17:58 AM, Anonymous wrote:
My Career report says I cannot
benefit from certain jobs
unless I am in "constant
contact with Earth". Can you
please explain to me how do I
go about doing that? Is it
standing on the ground?
(aren't we always doing that?)
Or is it working in an Earth
industry? Or is it wear
Earth-coloured clothes?? What
does it mean to be in
"constant contact with Earth"?

[myfs_106913]

Thanks for the reply. Do you think working in an Earth industry on a Macro level, even if one is not doing an Earth type job, is better than working in an Earth type job?
Another somewhat related question. I paid for a standard Bazi of my daughter. It says she is a strong Water person and says Fire job is good for Wealth and Earth job is good for Power. For her Fire job analysis, she has 2 Earned Wealth and 3 Unexpected Wealth, and for the Earth job, she has 2 Authority only. Also it says her Career Star is the Creative Star.
I remember one of your web pages said that Music and Art are counted as a Water element activities, that means they are not so good for her right? However she has a natural talent for music and art and draws very well and is a talented violinist who is doing very well in her music. She loves playing the violin too. So does it mean it's not going to be good for her? However being a professional musician involves playing to many audiences for money or for pleasure. It is no use just sitting at home playing to oneself or to one's family and friends only - this is something her violin teacher is keen to emphasise. He himself was a very talented violinist and he doesn't believe in playing an instrument for the sake of earning grades. He believes the point of playing music is to entertain others, and he is always encouraging her and giving her opportunities to play violin with other children in an orchestra, or play in public performances. Am I right in thinking that the performance/entertainment industry aspect of being a musician is a Fire industry/career? And in that case, does that mean that it actually suits her to become a performing violinist? She does enjoy playing and perfoming in front of audiences! That is something I don't have myself - I was quite good at piano but I have stage fright and don't like performing for others, so I never did anything with my piano training although I went all the way to Grade 8 (my mother did push me a bit).
Also, my daughter loves animals. She would like working with animals too if she could. She doesn't mind if she doesn't become a vet. She would be happy even being a vet nurse or a dog sitter.
I'm just wondering if it is worth continuing to help her down the violinist path as it is costing us a fortune in terms of time, money and effort. I have to take her to violin lessons and to children's orchestra every week, plus exams, rehearsals, etc. I don't know if it is worth it in the end, although she says to me now she loves violin too much to give it up. What should I do?

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On 7/14/2015 10:25:41 AM, Anonymous wrote:
1. The field of Strategic Management is
a good example.2. For example: in
general you could be working in an
industry related to? Earth.2.1 For
example; some of the common Earth
element industries are: Building
Management, Customer relations,
Civil engineering, Clothing,
Construction, Customer Relations,
Employee Relations, Estate Agency,
Farming, Food industry, Games,
Pottery, Real Estate, Recruitment,
Sports2.2 Reference:
http://talk.geomancy.net3. Thus, on a
MACRO level, one could be an accountant
e.g. Metal element but working in a
Construction firm.3.1. Here, it is said
that this person is in constant contact
with Earth element: a construction
firm.3.2. On a MICRO level, one may be
associated with Earth if it is one of
the person's best elements. But it does
mean that you have to carry a full-pack
full of bricks everywhere you go. If one
is a recruit in the army on a
force-march; then no choice; go ahead
and carry that full-pack of bricks or
sand or stone. Most likely, if so, in a
few years time... better change name to
"Hunchback of Notredame"On 7/14/2015
10:17:58 AM, Rachel Rachel wrote:
My
Career report says I cannot
benefit
from certain jobs
unless I am in
"constant
contact with Earth". Can
you
please explain to me how do
I
go about doing that? Is
it
standing on the ground?
(aren't
we always doing that?)
Or is it
working in an Earth
industry? Or is
it wear
Earth-coloured clothes??
What
does it mean to be
in
"constant contact with Earth"?

[myfs_106913]

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On 7/17/2015 8:24:42 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Ah sorry. Fire career is not performance/entertainment industry. I just realised. What kind of industry is performance arts? Is it water. wood, earth, or??

[myfs_106913]

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On 7/17/2015 9:11:19 AM, Anonymous wrote:
On 7/17/2015 8:24:42 AM, Rachel Rachel
wrote:Ah sorry. Fire career is not
performance/entertainment industry. I
just realised. What kind of industry is
performance arts? Is it water. wood,
earth, or??
I'm confused. I just saw on another Fengshui forum someone said "Fire is not simply about heat. It is also about brilliance, shining through which is why fire careers include actor and teacher... one who can get out front and perform." So does that mean performance arts is also Fire career??

[myfs_106913]

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On 7/17/2015 9:14:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:11:19 AM, Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015 8:24:42 AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:Ah sorry. Fire
career is
not
performance/entertainment
industry. I
just realised. What kind
of industry is
performance arts? Is
it water. wood,
earth, or??I'm
confused. I just saw on another Fengshui
forum someone said "Fire is not simply
about heat. It is also about brilliance,
shining through which is why fire
careers include actor and teacher... one
who can get out front and perform." So
does that mean performance arts is also
Fire career??
Also I'm not sure why another site says Earth careers include lawyer and consultant. Is it because both jobs involve having to develop relationships with clients and advise them and stuff?

[Cecil Lee]

In the past, I mentioned on this subject that if it remotely makes sense and if someone comes up with a logical reason as to why belongs to such and such an element; then go ponder over it.

For example, Law:-

Specialized Conveyancing Lawyer may be considered as in the earth element.

A lawyer that is involved in Civil Suitand Litigationmay be considered as a Fire element.

Thus in the Law profession; there are so many different fields.

Frankly, all these has to do with analysing in depth what FIELD the person is in.

For example: a CEO can be charge of Finance, Operations, HR, Public Relations, Legal etc.. But what is his CORE job function?

For a CEO, he is suppose to GROW the company thus MAY be considered as a Wood element etc...

This area of identifying an element with a Job is not like our human body. For example, a student studying our human body will know where our heart is suppose to be at. Our eyes and nose are. BUT, this is not biology or human body.

In this field, ones eyes can even be in one's backside and the mouth could even be in the stomach. Asa rough way of putting it thru!

No offence .. if offended... please don't read on.....

Come on, you can go search, find and tell me why this site or that site say it is different etc... This is not about which site is right or wrong. Please re-read my first paragraph, above.

Nowadays it is even complicated by multi-skilling where one does so many functions in a job! And please; put on the thinking cap and not quote who say it is this or that!

As I mentioned, there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWERS! Might as well slam one's head against the wall and... still.... I assure you cannot find the right answers!

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On 7/17/2015 9:20:41 AM, Anonymous wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:14:12 AM, Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:11:19 AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015
8:24:42 AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:Ah
sorry. Fire
career
is
not
performance/entertainment&g
t;industry. I
just realised. What
kind
of industry is
performance
arts? Is
it water. wood,
earth,
or??I'm
confused. I just saw on
another Fengshui
forum someone said
"Fire is not simply
about heat. It is
also about brilliance,
shining
through which is why fire
careers
include actor and teacher... one
who
can get out front and perform."
So
does that mean performance arts is
also
Fire career??Also I'm not sure
why another site says Earth careers
include lawyer and consultant. Is it
because both jobs involve having to
develop relationships with clients and
advise them and stuff?

[myfs_106913]

So you're saying that as long as one can somehow justify their reasoning then it is valid? There is no hard and fast rule about this career bazi stuff?? Then is there a point in even taking it seriously or following it?

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On 7/17/2015 9:44:07 AM, Anonymous wrote:
In the past, I mentioned on this subject
that if it remotely makes sense and if
someone comes up with a logical reason
as to why belongs to such and such an
element; then go ponder over it.For
example, Law:-Specialized Conveyancing
Lawyer may be considered as in the earth
element.A lawyer that is involved in
Civil Suitand Litigationmay
be considered as a Fire element.Thus in
the Law profession; there are so many
different fields.Frankly, all these has
to do with analysing in depth what FIELD
the person is in.For example: a CEO can
be charge of Finance, Operations, HR,
Public Relations, Legal etc.. But what
is his CORE job function?For a CEO, he
is suppose to GROW the company thus MAY
be considered as a Wood element
etc...This area of identifying an
element with a Job is not like our human
body. For example, a student studying
our human body will know where our heart
is suppose to be at. Our eyes and nose
are. BUT, this is not biology or human
body.In this field, ones eyes can even
be in one's backside and the mouth could
even be in the stomach. Asa rough
way of putting it thru!No offence .. if
offended... please don't read
on.....Come on, you can go search, find
and tell me why this site or that site
say it is different etc... This is not
about which site is right or wrong.
Please re-read my first paragraph,
above. Nowadays it is even complicated
by multi-skilling where one does so many
functions in a job! And please; put on
the thinking cap and not quote who say
it is this or that! As I mentioned,
there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWERS!
Might as well slam one's head against
the wall and... still.... I assure you
cannot find the right answers!On
7/17/2015 9:20:41 AM, Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:14:12 AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015
9:11:19 AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:
On
7/17/2015
8:24:42 AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:Ah
sorry.
Fire
career
is
not
performan
ce/entertainment&g
t;industry.
I
just realised. What
kind
of
industry is
performance
arts?
Is
it water.
wood,
earth,
or??I'm
confused.
I just saw on
another
Fengshui
forum someone said
"Fire
is not simply
about heat. It
is
also about
brilliance,
shining
through which
is why fire
careers
include actor
and teacher... one
who
can get out
front and perform."
So
does that
mean performance arts is
also
Fire
career??Also I'm not sure
why another
site says Earth careers
include
lawyer and consultant. Is it
because
both jobs involve having to
develop
relationships with clients and
advise
them and stuff?

[Cecil Lee]

1. I have already given you an example of a CEO and a Lawyer.

2. For example, what is their CORE function.

3. And if I say that as a specific CEO, my main core function is to grow the company, then I consider it as a Wood element.

4. For heaven's sake, I am trying to relay to you that if above makes sense, then you can consider my views.

5. It does not mean that every Jane, Jill or Mary says or justify it, it must be true.

6. Even in a career, most likely the person performing it has the best idea of what his/her CORE function. That is why, because of this, their career may end up as a different element that's all

7. Please don't "talk nonsense" about what you just wrote. You are truly missing the point.

This is the end of this thread.

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On 7/17/2015 9:56:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
So you're saying that as long as one can
somehow justify their reasoning then it
is valid? There is no hard and fast rule
about this career bazi stuff?? Then is
there a point in even taking it
seriously or following it?On 7/17/2015
9:44:07 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
In the
past, I mentioned on this
subject
that if it remotely makes
sense and if
someone comes up with a
logical reason
as to why belongs to
such and such an
element; then go
ponder over it.For
example,
Law:-Specialized Conveyancing
Lawyer
may be considered as in the
earth
element.A lawyer that is
involved in
Civil Suitand
Litigationmay
be considered as
a Fire element.Thus in
the Law
profession; there are so
many
different fields.Frankly, all
these has
to do with analysing in
depth what FIELD
the person is in.For
example: a CEO can
be charge of
Finance, Operations, HR,
Public
Relations, Legal etc.. But what
is
his CORE job function?For a CEO,
he
is suppose to GROW the company
thus MAY
be considered as a Wood
element
etc...This area of
identifying an
element with a Job is
not like our human
body. For example,
a student studying
our human body
will know where our heart
is suppose
to be at. Our eyes and nose
are. BUT,
this is not biology or human
body.In
this field, ones eyes can even
be in
one's backside and the mouth
could
even be in the stomach.
Asa rough
way of putting it
thru!No offence .. if
offended...
please don't read
on.....Come on, you
can go search, find
and tell me why
this site or that site
say it is
different etc... This is not
about
which site is right or wrong.
Please
re-read my first paragraph,
above.
Nowadays it is even complicated
by
multi-skilling where one does so
many
functions in a job! And please;
put on
the thinking cap and not quote
who say
it is this or that! As I
mentioned,
there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG
ANSWERS!
Might as well slam one's
head against
the wall and...
still.... I assure you
cannot find
the right answers!On
7/17/2015
9:20:41 AM, Rachel
Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:14:12
AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On
7/17/2015
9:11:19
AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:
On&
gt;7/17/2015
8:24:42
AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:Ah
s
orry.
Fire
career
is
not
performan
ce/entertainment&g
t
;industry.
I
just realised.
What
kind
of
industry
is
performance
arts?
Is
it
water.
wood,
earth,
or??I'm
confused.
I just saw
on
another
Fengshui
forum
someone said
"Fire
is not
simply
about heat. It
is
also
about
brilliance,
shining
throu
gh which
is why
fire
careers
include actor
and
teacher... one
who
can get
out
front and perform."
So
does
that
mean performance arts
is
also
Fire
career??Also I'm
not sure
why another
site says
Earth careers
include
lawyer and
consultant. Is it
because
both
jobs involve having
to
develop
relationships with
clients and
advise
them and stuff?

[Cecil Lee]

Some information on this:-

http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=29&mid=34431

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On 7/17/2015 9:44:07 AM, Anonymous wrote:
In the past, I mentioned on this subject
that if it remotely makes sense and if
someone comes up with a logical reason
as to why belongs to such and such an
element; then go ponder over it.For
example, Law:-Specialized Conveyancing
Lawyer may be considered as in the earth
element.A lawyer that is involved in
Civil Suitand Litigationmay
be considered as a Fire element.Thus in
the Law profession; there are so many
different fields.Frankly, all these has
to do with analysing in depth what FIELD
the person is in.For example: a CEO can
be charge of Finance, Operations, HR,
Public Relations, Legal etc.. But what
is his CORE job function?For a CEO, he
is suppose to GROW the company thus MAY
be considered as a Wood element
etc...This area of identifying an
element with a Job is not like our human
body. For example, a student studying
our human body will know where our heart
is suppose to be at. Our eyes and nose
are. BUT, this is not biology or human
body.In this field, ones eyes can even
be in one's backside and the mouth could
even be in the stomach. Asa rough
way of putting it thru!No offence .. if
offended... please don't read
on.....Come on, you can go search, find
and tell me why this site or that site
say it is different etc... This is not
about which site is right or wrong.
Please re-read my first paragraph,
above. Nowadays it is even complicated
by multi-skilling where one does so many
functions in a job! And please; put on
the thinking cap and not quote who say
it is this or that! As I mentioned,
there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWERS!
Might as well slam one's head against
the wall and... still.... I assure you
cannot find the right answers!On
7/17/2015 9:20:41 AM, Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015 9:14:12 AM,
Rachel Rachel
wrote:
On 7/17/2015
9:11:19 AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:
On
7/17/2015
8:24:42 AM,
Rachel
Rachel
wrote:Ah
sorry.
Fire
career
is
not
performan
ce/entertainment&g
t;industry.
I
just realised. What
kind
of
industry is
performance
arts?
Is
it water.
wood,
earth,
or??I'm
confused.
I just saw on
another
Fengshui
forum someone said
"Fire
is not simply
about heat. It
is
also about
brilliance,
shining
through which
is why fire
careers
include actor
and teacher... one
who
can get out
front and perform."
So
does that
mean performance arts is
also
Fire
career??Also I'm not sure
why another
site says Earth careers
include
lawyer and consultant. Is it
because
both jobs involve having to
develop
relationships with clients and
advise
them and stuff?