San Yuan/San He

[Ivanho]

What is the difference between "San Yuan" and "San He"? I think I would like most to know about "San He" first.
Why are they different from Xuan Kong?
I'm dying from curiosity about this.
Thank you for any help on this subject,
Vivian

[Robert Lee]

Dear Vivian,
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What is the difference between "San Yuan" and "San He"? I think I would
like most to know about "San He" first.

I believe the San Yuan you are refering to is Three Period, right? If it is,
then San Yuan is actually talking about the Sexagenary Cycle's Three 60-year
period, the Upper Period, Middle Period, and Lower Period.
As for your San He, can you further specify if you are refering to the San
He when translated to English Characters by Mountain & River, or Three River
or even possibly the Luo He (River Tortise) under this url:
http://www.geomancy.net/fs/tortise.htm? Sorry, sometimes the hanyu pinyin can
be a little hard to guess what you are refering to.

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Why are they different from Xuan Kong?

As for the San Yuan, it is from the San Yuan period that you deduce the base
star for the Xuan Kong. But San Yuan by itself does not mean Xuan Kong Fei
Xing. It is just a Cycle showing the breakdown of the periods which is used
for determining the Flying Star number.

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I'm dying from curiosity about this.
Thank you for any help on this subject,
Vivian

[Ivanho]

Dear Robert:
I know only that San Yuan was referred to as "triple fate", and San He, as
"triple combination", and they are from different feng shui schools.
You have further enlightened me on San He, when you asked for specification
as to Mountain & River, or Three Rivers, or River Tortise. I didn't know of
these choices.
I believe the San He refers to special flying star combination(s). Would
this be Mountain and River?
Your expanation of San Yuan having its orgins in the San Yuan period for
deducing the base star within a cycle, and the sequential breakdown of
periods for determining the flying star number(s), makes good sense and
clearifies much.
I must apologize for my ignorance of Chinese characters and names as this
contributes towards my difficulty in comprehending some things.
Thank you for your understanding and patience.
Vivian Espinosa
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Dear Vivian,
Please read below:-
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>From: "Vivian Espinosa"
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>What is the difference between "San Yuan" and "San He"? I think I would
like most to know about "San He" first.
I believe the San Yuan you are refering to is Three Period, right? If it
is,
then San Yuan is actually talking about the Sexagenary Cycle's Three
60-year
period, the Upper Period, Middle Period, and Lower Period.
As for your San He, can you further specify if you are refering to the San
He when translated to English Characters by Mountain & River, or Three
River
or even possibly the Luo He (River Tortise) under this url:
http://www.geomancy.net/fs/tortise.htm? Sorry, sometimes the hanyu pinyin
can
be a little hard to guess what you are refering to.
>Why are they different from Xuan Kong?
As for the San Yuan, it is from the San Yuan period that you deduce the
base
star for the Xuan Kong. But San Yuan by itself does not mean Xuan Kong Fei
Xing. It is just a Cycle showing the breakdown of the periods which is
used
for determining the Flying Star number.
>I'm dying from curiosity about this.
>
>Thank you for any help on this subject,
>
>Vivian
>
>
>
>

[Robert Lee]

Dear Vivian,
Please read below:-
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From: "Vivian Espinosa and T.A. Espinosa"
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Dear Robert:
I know only that San Yuan was referred to as "triple fate", and San He, as
"triple combination", and they are from different feng shui schools.
You have further enlightened me on San He, when you asked for specification
as to Mountain & River, or Three Rivers, or River Tortise. I didn't know
of
these choices.
I believe the San He refers to special flying star combination(s). Would
this be Mountain and River?

Yes, I know what you are refering to now.What you are refering to is the
Triple Combinations that occurs in the Flying Star. I forgot to add that as
an option for you. It should be when the base star (or luo shu number for
that period) and its combinational influences with the Water Star or
Mountain star.
As the Flying Star normally is interpreted from Five Element Analysis, there
are certain combinations which creates a balance. And when that happens the
bad influences that one star has is being countered or converted to another
use. When this happens the result is a good influence.
So the San He for this case under the Flying Star is a combinations
technique which influences the readings of the charts. This can be easily
deduced by using the Five Elements on each of the numbers to see how is the
relationship. Take note that the combinations normally will produce two
types of results, good and bad combinations.

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Your expanation of San Yuan having its orgins in the San Yuan period for
deducing the base star within a cycle, and the sequential breakdown of
periods for determining the flying star number(s), makes good sense and
clearifies much.
I must apologize for my ignorance of Chinese characters and names as this
contributes towards my difficulty in comprehending some things.

Well, it is as hanyu pinyin for the chinese often has four different
pronouncation to it, it is not surprising that it can be confusing.
Personally, until I clarify it can be difficult for me to guess what you are
refering to unless there is only one reference to that topic. Like the San
Yuan. However, the San He, has many interpretations which was why I wasn't
able to pin point which concept you are refering to.
Warmest Regards
Robert Lee

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Thank you for your understanding and patience.
Vivian Espinosa
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From: "Robert Lee"
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Dear Vivian,
Please read below:-
-----Original Message-----
From: Listmanager
To: Recipients of 'discussion-session' suppressed 'discussion-session' suppressed>
Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 6:48 AM
Subject: San Yuan/San He
>From: "Vivian Espinosa"
>
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>
>What is the difference between "San Yuan" and "San He"? I think I would
like most to know about "San He" first.
I believe the San Yuan you are refering to is Three Period, right? If it
is,
then San Yuan is actually talking about the Sexagenary Cycle's Three
60-year
period, the Upper Period, Middle Period, and Lower Period.
As for your San He, can you further specify if you are refering to the
San
He when translated to English Characters by Mountain & River, or Three
River
or even possibly the Luo He (River Tortise) under this url:
http://www.geomancy.net/fs/tortise.htm? Sorry, sometimes the hanyu pinyin
can
be a little hard to guess what you are refering to.
>Why are they different from Xuan Kong?
As for the San Yuan, it is from the San Yuan period that you deduce the
base
star for the Xuan Kong. But San Yuan by itself does not mean Xuan Kong
Fei
Xing. It is just a Cycle showing the breakdown of the periods which is
used
for determining the Flying Star number.
>I'm dying from curiosity about this.
>
>Thank you for any help on this subject,
>
>Vivian
>
>
>
>

[Cecil Lee]