Kieron Posted April 30, 1999 Share Posted April 30, 1999 Dear Cecil,I'm confused about ba gua and pa-kua. I understand a bit about the ba gua. When I saw the term "pa-kua" I thought it was a different phonetic spelling of ba gua, but now I realize they're different things.Can you please explain pa kua, or advise me where I can find out more? None of the books I have read say much about it.Thank you for your help.Kieron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Posted April 30, 1999 Share Posted April 30, 1999 Dear Joe,Frankly, the Ba gua and pa-kua is one and the same. Where " pa-kua " iscommonly `spelt' or pronounced this way by the Hokkiens (a dialect group ofthe Chinese) while the Ba gua is considered the romanised word in Mandarin.Not to confuse anyone, when we say ba gua mirror, this refers to the FirstHeaven Sequence Trigram mirror commonly used to be hang above doors of homesin the Far East i.e. Malaysia, Singapore etc....Therefore, by definition, ba gua = pa-kua. (minus the mirror)Warmest Regards,Cecil-----Original Message-----From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:06 AMSubject: ba gua and pa-kua Quote From: "Joe Sehl" This message is sent from "free-advice" Mailing List.Dear Cecil,I'm confused about ba gua and pa-kua. I understand a bit about the ba gua.When I saw the term "pa-kua" I thought it was a different phonetic spelling of ba gua, but now I realize they're different things. Quote Can you please explain pa kua, or advise me where I can find out more?None of the books I have read say much about it.Thank you for your help.Kieron --> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikkie Posted April 30, 1999 Share Posted April 30, 1999 Dear CecilI understand from reading Lillian Too's books that the pakua of the former heaven sequence is Yin (for the dead) and she cautions against using this pakua above your door. She says the later heaven sequence should be placed above the door, because it signifies yang (for the living.) Could you clarify for me, since you seem to indicate that the former heaven sequence is used above one's door?Thanks & best wishesToni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Posted April 30, 1999 Share Posted April 30, 1999 Dear Toni,The First Heaven Sequence of trigram arrangement is usually used for suchpurposes or as talisman.This trigram arrangement is `picture perfect' in that the opposite trigramshows a relationship to each other. So you have: Heaven to Earth; Wind toThunder; Water to Fire; Mountain to Lake. Because it is picture perfect, itis used as a bagua mirror.You can also say that this is a static trigram.The second trigram which was later developed by King Wen, is called theLater Heaven Trigram and yes, it is used for the "living".Here, maybe you would like to know that while the Later Heaven Trigram isused for the living, as I mentioned above, because the First Heaven SequenceTrigram is for the "dead", as it is again `picture perfect'. What better wayto `scare' the dead using it instead of the Later Heaven Trigram.Maybe you would like to review this short article I wrote. Please click thislink: http://www.geomancy.net/fs/pakua.htmMaybe, you may also want to `re-read' what Lillian Too wrote because, Ibelieve, she would be writing/saying the same thing.Warmest Regards,Cecil-----Original Message-----From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:49 PMSubject: Re: ba gua and pa-kua Quote From: "Toni Pedro" This message is sent from "free-advice" Mailing List.Dear CecilI understand from reading Lillian Too's books that the pakua of the formerheaven sequence is Yin (for the dead) and she cautions against using thispakua above your door. She says the later heaven sequence should be placedabove the door, because it signifies yang (for the living.) Could youclarify for me, since you seem to indicate that the former heaven sequenceis used above one's door?Thanks & best wishesToni --> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Posted April 30, 1999 Share Posted April 30, 1999 Dear Toni"What better way to `scare' the dead using it instead of the Later HeavenTrigram. "Sorry, the above should instead read as First Heaven Trigram.Warmest Regards,Cecil-----Original Message-----From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 5:44 PMSubject: Re: ba gua and pa-kua Quote From: "Cecil Lee" This message is sent from "free-advice" Mailing List.Dear Toni,The First Heaven Sequence of trigram arrangement is usually used for suchpurposes or as talisman.This trigram arrangement is `picture perfect' in that the opposite trigramshows a relationship to each other. So you have: Heaven to Earth; Wind toThunder; Water to Fire; Mountain to Lake. Because it is picture perfect, itis used as a bagua mirror.You can also say that this is a static trigram.The second trigram which was later developed by King Wen, is called theLater Heaven Trigram and yes, it is used for the "living".Here, maybe you would like to know that while the Later Heaven TrigramisWhat better wayto `scare' the dead using it instead of the Later Heaven Trigram.used for the living, as I mentioned above, because the First HeavenSequenceTrigram is for the "dead", as it is again `picture perfect'. >Maybe you would like to review this short article I wrote. Please clickthislink: http://www.geomancy.net/fs/pakua.htmMaybe, you may also want to `re-read' what Lillian Too wrote because, Ibelieve, she would be writing/saying the same thing.Warmest Regards,Cecil-----Original Message-----From: ListmanagerTo: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:49 PMSubject: Re: ba gua and pa-kuaFrom: "Toni Pedro"This message is sent from "free-advice" Mailing List.Dear CecilI understand from reading Lillian Too's books that the pakua of the formerheaven sequence is Yin (for the dead) and she cautions against using thispakua above your door. She says the later heaven sequence should be placedabove the door, because it signifies yang (for the living.) Could youclarify for me, since you seem to indicate that the former heaven sequenceis used above one's door?Thanks & best wishesToni --> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieron Posted May 1, 1999 Share Posted May 1, 1999 Dear Cecil,Thanks for pointing me to the website on pa kua. Very helpful! Now one last question on this topic:My living room has two entrances (no doors just an entry-way). Standing at the center of the room, you see one door leads into the dining room. The other leads to the small foyer where the front door is.When applying the pa kua:Whichis considered the main doorway for the living room? In other words, where do I begin the pa kua and the various points of the room?I hope this makes sense and I thank you for your patience with my many questions. :)Kieron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Posted May 3, 1999 Share Posted May 3, 1999 Dear Kieron,Please see below:------Original Message-----From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed>Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 7:27 AMSubject: Re: ba gua and pa-kua Quote From: "Joe Sehl" This message is sent from "free-advice" Mailing List.Dear Cecil,Thanks for pointing me to the website on pa kua. Very helpful! Now onelast question on this topic:My living room has two entrances (no doors just an entry-way). Standing atthe center of the room, you see one door leads into the dining room. Theother leads to the small foyer where the front door is.When applying the pa kua:Whichis considered the main doorway for the living room? In other words,where do I begin the pa kua and the various points of the room? Let me clarify:-1. As you have determined the centre of the room, all you need to do is tonote the North to South alignment of the house.2. Here, if you have the Eight House Template Superimpose it on the layoutplan.There are lots of examples of how the Eight House Template issuperimposed on the layout of your houseat http://www.geomancy.net/fs/house2.htm I suggest you go through thismodule or http://www.geomancy.net/fs/house1.htmfirst.3. In a small home, you do not need to superimose the Eight House Templateon every room. However, you should simply superimpose the layout plan toyour entire home. Unless, you have a very large house.As most of the information is available on the two links provided, gratefulif you could spent a little time reading the above two links.Thanks.Cecil2. If you have a Eight House Template simply Quote I hope this makes sense and I thank you for your patience with my manyquestions. :)Kieron --> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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