What would be MY Element?

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Hi,
I have read a couple of books and I have tried to determine what element I belong to:
I was born on 29 july 1957 7:30 PM +2(44 deg 19 min.North,23degrees 48 min. Est).Female.
I found that my element is:
1)WATER -personality(4Pillars...)
2)Metal -Year of Birth (1957)
3)Fire - according to the tables of Derek Walters,S.Brown....and others
4)Earth-Year of Birth Kua 8(female Lillian Too)
Where do I go to Find out?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
M

[Cecil Lee]

Dear M B,
You can obtain your element from the free report at www.geomancy-online.com -> Under "Personal Self " Reports.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 10/12/00 10:54:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hi,
I have read a couple of books
and I have tried to determine
what element I belong to:
I was born on 29 july 1957
7:30 PM +2(44 deg 19
min.North,23degrees 48 min.
Est).Female.
I found that my element is:
1)WATER
-personality(4Pillars...)
2)Metal -Year of Birth (1957)
3)Fire - according to the
tables of Derek
Walters,S.Brown....and others
4)Earth-Year of Birth Kua
8(female Lillian Too)
Where do I go to Find out?
Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated,
M

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Hi Cecil,
Thank you very much for your answer.
I do need more info.According to My Personal analysis..
My Element is Water(day element).I understand :As personnality.My lucky Element would be Wood( I have the smallest amount )
What element do I use to determine Directions,Locations in a House?
Year element?(1957female-Earth(8Kua))?
Why not consider Month and Day?
According to Derek Walters &others my Element
would be FIRE(9-month july,day 29).Then my Best Direction would be South.
According to Lillian Too my element is 8Earth
According to Eva Wang I need to consider:
-year when the house was built(3)
-actual wan(7)
-Front Door
-Direction of the House
-Relationship bet. Earth Base(element/number)
and MY Element.
According to The Idiot's Guide to Fs(Mechanics 101), my element would be 8Earth.
I found a site www.qi-whiz.com/books.html
where there is a List of Books to Avoid:
Easy to use Feng Shui,168 Ways to success
by Lillian Too
Sarah Rossbach,Nancy Santo Pietro,Jami Lin...
Where do we turn for REAL Feng Shui Knowledge?
It seems that every school has his own "style".
The truth should be ONE and ONLY.
I think that are enough "Cases studied" and
experience to use what WORKS!
It becomes really confusing,
I really appreciate your advice,
Mag B

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mag,
I truly sympathise with you as Feng Shui can nowadays become quite `complicated' due to the vast amounts of differing "views".
All other methods you mentioned are not excatly wrong because there are several ways of determing element either using the earthly branches and/or heavenly stem.
For example, there are different levels and methods of determing the personal element. Take for example, if you use the Gua (Kua) report from our website, you will get the element that is different from the analysis from Pillars of Destiny.
The reason because the Gua (Kua) number uses the year of birth. Where else, the pillars of destiny uses the Day, Month, Year and Hour of Birth.
A more advanced model of Pillars of Destiny will even provide you with weak or strong element which is essential in a more accurate reading.
Even for Pillars of Destiny, some practitioners do not take the Heavenly stem of the day as the birth element instead, they may take the heavenly stem of the year or earthly branch of the year as your birth element.
Another version that Derek Walters uses is a combination of Eight House theory plus Flying Star theory.
This method may be considered more accurate than the basic eight house theory but however, it is less accurate than a Full fledge or advanced version of Pillars of Destiny which provides you with the True birth element and strenght.
Thus because of this, often when Pillars of Destiny is used together with Feng Shui, it is often called "Ba Zi Feng Shui."
And this is the method that this website (geomancy.net) strongly uses to provide all users (which we feel is the most accurate and comprehensive method).
Based on the report you generated, your birth element is a water element. This site uses Pillars of Destiny (Ba Zi Feng Shui) to determine your true element taking into consideration the Year, Day, Month & Hour.
In addition, it uses two additional classical Pillars known as House of Conception and House of Life totallying 6 Pillars (each comprise of Heavenly stem and earth branch) which results in 12 sets of elements to be analysed.
In the very traditional Pillars of Destiny there were 16 elements of which many of them relate to Yin or (or for the dead) which is no longer in use.
The rationale for having more sets of combination to analyse is that if we use few Pillars (triple combination reactions and double combination reactions are harder to appear). These double/triple combinations can greatly alter one's birth element strength.
In addition, since the common denominator is based on the Five elements, it can easily be related to the Flying Star analysis which we have also used the common denominator of the Five elements.
Therefore, most of the theories are not wrong. The only thing I feel is that most of the theories that you mentioned perhaps were not clearly stated as to what it is, its strenghts and weakness and the purpose of how it is to be used.
Generally, most of the methods you mentioned in one way or another is used in one area of Feng Shui only and also depending on the `depth' of analysis such as based Year of birth.

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According to Lillian Too my
element is 8Earth
According to Eva Wang I need
to consider:
-year when the house was
built(3)
-actual wan(7)
-Front Door
-Direction of the House
-Relationship bet. Earth
Base(element/number)
and MY Element.
According to The Idiot's Guide
to Fs(Mechanics 101), my
element would be 8Earth.
I found a site
www.qi-whiz.com/books.html
where there is a List of Books
to Avoid:
Easy to use Feng Shui,168 Ways
to success
by Lillian Too
Sarah Rossbach,Nancy Santo
Pietro,Jami Lin...
I agree with Cate Bramble's views on her website qi-whiz.com on the above books which I feel can do more harm than good.
Many of these authors are more commercialised than anything else and even go hand in hand with or I feel seem to be more like *BTB Feng Shui*.

Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 10/17/00 9:00:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hi Cecil,
Thank you very much for your
answer.
I do need more info.According
to My Personal analysis..
My Element is Water(day
element).I understand :As
personnality.My lucky Element
would be Wood( I have the
smallest amount )
What element do I use to
determine Directions,Locations
in a House?
Year
element?(1957female-Earth(8Kua
))?
Why not consider Month and
Day?
According to Derek Walters
&others my Element
would be FIRE(9-month july,day
29).Then my Best Direction
would be South.
According to Lillian Too my
element is 8Earth
According to Eva Wang I need
to consider:
-year when the house was
built(3)
-actual wan(7)
-Front Door
-Direction of the House
-Relationship bet. Earth
Base(element/number)
and MY Element.
According to The Idiot's Guide
to Fs(Mechanics 101), my
element would be 8Earth.
I found a site
www.qi-whiz.com/books.html
where there is a List of Books
to Avoid:
Easy to use Feng Shui,168 Ways
to success
by Lillian Too
Sarah Rossbach,Nancy Santo
Pietro,Jami Lin...
Where do we turn for REAL Feng
Shui Knowledge?
It seems that every school has
his own "style".
The truth should be ONE and
ONLY.
I think that are enough "Cases
studied" and
experience to use what WORKS!
It becomes really confusing,
I really appreciate your
advice,
Mag B

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Hi Cecil,
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Could you tell me/us something more about names and purpose of 7th and =8th Pillar of Destiny, please?
Wansui!
Boyler
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there were 16 elements of which many of them relate to Yin or (or for =the dead)
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Could you tell me/us something more =about names and
purpose of 7th and 8th Pillar of Destiny, please?

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Wansui!
Boyler

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[Cecil Lee]

Dear Robert,
In the `life' pillars we have House of Life and House of Conception.
Similiarly in Yin Feng Shui there is the opposite of House of Life i.e. House of `Death' and roughly the translated term is House of Reincarnation.
The House of Death does not mean when a person die. But rather in a spirtual sense of the dead such as the person's spirit or `ghost'.
For the House of Reincarnation, it is the belief that when a person dies, he/she is reincarnated.
By the way, these additional Pillars (1 pillar = 1 heavenly stem + 1 earthly branch) e.g. House of Life, Conception etc... these are the so called additional pillars for more advanced readings.
The basic readings is usually done with Four pillars which is why most of the time Pillars of Destiny is called four pillars.
Similarly, the Eight Characters of Birth is another name for Pillars of Destiny reason being Four Pillars x a combination of 1 stem and 1 branch each = 4 x 2 = 8 characters.
The additional Houses of which House of Life and House of Conception can `sway' a person's element STRENGTH particularly the House of Life.
Therefore, if one calculates Pillars based on the regular 4 pillars: Year, Day, Month and Hour may get a result as e.g. weak water.
But because of the addition of the two new `houses'; the final result could end up as Strong Water.
Yin Feng Shui is nowadays no longer popular or in use, little of it is discussed today.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 10/17/00 10:31:29 AM, Robert Matusan
wrote:
Hi Cecil,
Could you tell me/us something
more about names and purpose
of 7th and =8th Pillar of
Destiny, please?
Wansui!
Boyler