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Hi,
To know the best directions is very important, so I tried to determine it via your site and it is determined as 4. But according to the method I know, I found 5. Maybe I didn't consider the Chinese solar year. As far as we know, for those who are born before Feb. 4, previous year must take into consideration. I will appreciate if you clarify us on this. Can you inform us as of which date we should consider the previous year's data, thank you very much...
And if you don't mind, one more small question, if I'm West group person, what I have to do enhance career part, as this part is in the five ghost?
Thank you very much..
Min
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Dear Mina,
1. Yes, most likely your Date of Birth that you had used to calculate or determine your Gua (Kua) did not take into consideration the Lunar Calendar.
2. To confirm the calculation, you can visit this url and check the exact Date of Birth:
http://www.geomancy.net/love/astro.htm
3. Although the above url is about astrology, simply use the date of birth `start' and `end' date of each Lunar year to confirm your manual calculations.
4. For example, after locating your Year of birth, you should be able to see something like: e.g. Date of Birth = 1970 is "17 Feb 1969 to 5 Feb 1970".
5. Where, a person born in 1970 under the Lunar Calendar is a person `born' between 17 February 1969 (first day of Lunar New Year or Chinese New Year for 1970) and 5 February 1970 is the last day of that year)
6. Therefore, for those (especially) born around January or February should take more `precaution' when finding what `animal signs' they are associated with.
7. East/West Group Persons
This is also called Eight House Theory and belongs to one of the two Compass School Feng Shui.
Eight House is more of a static representation unlike it's "sister" concept The Flying Star Feng Shui.
8. It is always advisable to try and understand the following for each of the authentic Feng Shui theories:
8.1. What is the usefulness of this theory?
8.2 What is it's strengths and weakness?
Once we understand what it is; and what it can or cannot do, then we will have said to have a better understanding. And this would result in having a `firm' foundation to better awareness of what is Hocus Pocus and the `real stuff'.
9. The usefulness of this theory is:
- How suitable is the house to the breadwinner?
- It is good to spend time at auspicious sectors.
10. The weakness is that there is really not much we can do if say a sector is the `disaster' or `death' sector. Unlike it's sister - The Flying Star; it cannot relate to the Five Elements concept. Where the Five elements concept, can be used to used to find a `cure' or neutralising agent.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil LeeOn 1/9/2002 6:58:00 PM, Mina Mou wrote:

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Hi,
To know the best directions is
very important, so I tried to
determine it via your site and
it is determined as 4. But
according to the method I
know, I found 5. Maybe I
didn't consider the Chinese
solar year. As far as we know,
for those who are born before
Feb. 4, previous year must
take into consideration. I
will appreciate if you clarify
us on this. Can you inform us
as of which date we should
consider the previous year's
data, thank you very much...
And if you don't mind, one
more small question, if I'm
West group person, what I have
to do enhance career part, as
this part is in the five
ghost?
Thank you very much..
Min

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Thank you Cecile,
According to the site you direct me, I saw that I'm water-rat. However, I need to know the qua number for determining the auspicious directions. Then as far I understood, there is no such rule that says that everybody who are born before feb. 4 must take into account the previous year, in every year there are small changes. Consequently, for example, someone who was born in Feb. 11, 1972 doesn't have to consider the previous year according the chinese calendar:(15jan-2feb 73). Sorry, I asked this additional question so that I can learn my qua number exactly.
Thank you very much
Min
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Dear Mina,
1. I hope I understand your question, correctly, if not please clarify again - Thanks.
2. For those who are born in 11 Feb, 1972, they are considered born under the period 15 Jan 1972 to 2 Feb 1973 which is the Year of the Water-Rat
3. Therefore, for those born on 11 Feb 1972, will be considered as having born in the Year of Water-Rat (1972).
4. Only those who were born say on 1 January 1972 to 14 January 1972 should not consider themselves as born in the " Year 1972 " for purposes of Gua (Kua) calculation but rather they should consider themselves as born in the " Year 1971 ".
5. Similarly, those who were born on 1 January 1973 to 1 February 1973, will be considered as born under the " Year 1972 ".
6. In the past, if a person `picks' up a book especially on Chinese Astrology, one may simply see the Year of Birth being quoted as reference material.
7. In such a situation, for those who are born in January or February of any year, should try and confirm whether they are considered as born under that year or the previous year.
8. If the book(s) has taken into consideration the start and end date of each (Lunar Year) than, one can safely say that their correct Year chart has been taken care of.
9. The rationale for this is that authentic Chinese calculations are always based on a common denominator i.e. the Lunar Calendar. This is the most accurate means of analysis.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil Lee

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On 1/10/2002 1:55:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Thank you Cecile,
According to the site you
direct me, I saw that I'm
water-rat. However, I need to
know the qua number for
determining the auspicious
directions. Then as far I
understood, there is no such
rule that says that everybody
who are born before feb. 4
must take into account the
previous year, in every year
there are small changes.
Consequently, for example,
someone who was born in Feb.
11, 1972 doesn't have to
consider the previous year
according the chinese
calendar:(15jan-2feb 73).
Sorry, I asked this additional
question so that I can learn
my qua number exactly.
Thank you very much
Min

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Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I believe, hhis site is the site that gives the correct information in a detailed way. I have a last question about these qua numbers. According to the chart you directed me, my qua number is determined as 5. But in your site, my qua is appeared as 4. I considered the time period that is given in the chart (the one which is given for Chinese horoscope) 11 Feb. 1972 for a female is certainly in the time limit of water rat. So I did not have to take the previous year into consideration. I'll be more than happy if you shed light upon this matter? Maybe I missed some points.
Thank you very much again..
Min
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Dear Mina,
Based on your information i.e. Birthdate of 11 February 1972 (female); you have to consider yourself as belonging to the Year 1971 instead of 1972.
This is because, Chinese New in 1972 starts only on 15 February 1972. And 11 February 1972 is still within the period 1971.
Therefore, your Gua (Kua) should be 4. As what, our site has furnished you is correct.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 1/15/2002 5:13:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Thank you very much for your
detailed explanation. I
believe, hhis site is the site
that gives the correct
information in a detailed way.
I have a last question about
these qua numbers. According
to the chart you directed me,
my qua number is determined as
5. But in your site, my qua is
appeared as 4. I considered
the time period that is given
in the chart (the one which is
given for Chinese horoscope)
11 Feb. 1972 for a female is
certainly in the time limit of
water rat. So I did not have
to take the previous year into
consideration. I'll be more
than happy if you shed light
upon this matter? Maybe I
missed some points.
Thank you very much again..
Min

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Dear Mr. Cecile & Lee,
Thank you for your previous answers which are very useful for me. I'd like to learn that why we consider the Chinese lunar calendar while we calculate the gua number, why don't we consider Chinese solar calendar? Or is it so? Thank you very much for your precious feedbacks.
M
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Dear Mina,
1. Chinese Astrology (Zi Wei Dou Shu), Eight House Theory, Flying Star Theory, Pillars of Destiny all these major theories uses Chinese Lunar calendar system for their calculation.
2. In authentic Chinese methodology such as Chinese Astrology, Eight House and Flying Star all reference to one's Chinese Lunar calendar.
3. Xia (Hsia) or Chinese Solar calendar is used mainly to define season. And in Pillars of Destiny, this is one portion of the calculation. For example, to define the season of birth i.e. when you were born what season it happen to be at that time.
4. As mentioned above, all other major calculations of Pillars of Destiny uses the Chinese Lunar calendar.
5.1 In most cases the results of the analysis between the Xia (Hsia) and Solar is the same. However, if there is a `blind' date i.e. the difference between how the calendar system treats the start of a new month may create a one month change in the Date of Birth.
Since Pillars Destiny is based on one's date of birth, such a change is considered major and will make your entire Pillars of Destiny readings inacurate.
6. The rationale why you see so many Feng Shui practitioners promoting the use of Xia (Hsia) or Chinse Solar is because:
6.1. What we see in the internet are `voices' of many Feng Shui practitioners who derive their practise in Hong Kong.
6.2. Hong Kong once was a Commnonwealth country and many of these Hong Kong practitioners widely use English. And this is why we see a widespread use of Xia (Hsia) or Chinese Solar.
6.3 The rationale is because, Xia is quite constant and very similar to the western solar calendar system. And the best advantage it has is it is easy to chart.
7. Many of the Hong Kong practitioners also migrated to say Canada and some even to USA e.g. California.. thus makes it look like Xia or Hsia or Chinese solar is the `defacto standard.'
8. If we look at China under communism. Feng Shui and Chinese divinity methods were banned in the country. And many of the Authentic Feng Shui practitioners or rather Masters fled to Taiwan. (Majority speaks Chinese dialects or mandarin).
I believe if you check the records of many of the well known personalities on Feng Shui e.g. in Hong Kong and Canada or USA, their links are with Hong Kong - i.e. Xia or Hsia system.
9. The unfortunate part is that many of the true Taiwanese Masters do not speak any English. And their main media is either Mandarin or (Hokkien - Fukien). If one looks at the origins of some of the theories, orignate from Fukien province.
For example the entire Compass School Feng Shui originates Fukien (Hokkien) province) and the founder is Wang K'e.
10. Thus, you only see sites like us, who have links with both Taiwanese and Hong Kong.
Therefore, we understand the practical reasons for practitioners who use Xia (Hsia) system - mainly for conveninence of calcuations. Since Xia (Hsia) use a constant 360 days every year. Much more simple than even the Western solar calendar.
Because in majority (95%) of time, one's date of birth does not fall into the blind dates. (Too bad for those who fall in the blind dates only)>
11. We have to be objective and this is why, Geomancy.net has to Chinese Lunar.
12. This is because, in the actual Chinese Lunar Pillars of Destiny the Xia (Hsia) is used not to convert the main Pillars chart but used when needed to reference the seasons of birth and for several calculations relating to two advanced pillars e.g. House of Life and House of Conception. In this two references, there is a need to convert or calculate the actual Hsia months in relation to the Lunar month.
13. Thus it is a pretty complicated process and in most cases, you will not find many practitioners analysing up to the House of Life and House of Conception.
14. You will also notice that the other major theories like Eight House, Flying Star, Chinese Astrology never use Xia (Hsia) as the default system. Although, in recent times we do see some `Hong Kong' related Feng Shui practitioners trying to use Xia Flying Star System. However, if one knows, the origins of the Compass School, it comes from Fukien (Hokkien) and the original use is thru the Lunar system.
15. Feng Shui is applied thru the use of several theories. And many of these theories are inter-related i.e. using the common denominator i.e. Lunar System. This allows for cross-analysis.
16. We feel that being 95% accurate is not acceptable at Geomancy.net. As we are literally playing with people's life. For example, if you are the one who `unfortunately' belong to the category with the blind date - using Hsia, would mean that all your calculations are no longer accurate.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 1/23/2002 6:56:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Mr. Cecile & Lee,
Thank you for your previous
answers which are very useful
for me. I'd like to learn that
why we consider the Chinese
lunar calendar while we
calculate the gua number, why
don't we consider Chinese
solar calendar? Or is it so?
Thank you very much for your
precious feedbacks.
M

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