myfs_89297 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Dear Cecil,Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TO DETERMINE SAFE AREAS FOR LOCATING ?TOILET?.Ref: Valuable archive at "WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".It is generally said as a rule-set (taboo) in Internal Forms Feng Shui, that Toilet [more accurately toilet bowl] should not be located in cases such as (1) Center of an apartment/house; (2) Near the main door entrance [i.e, in the foyer area] of an apartment/house and (3) Above the bedroom [perhaps the bed] or above the kitchen [perhaps the stove/oven] or above the main door entrance. In all these cases, is there a mathematical formula, to measure, the safe distance area, where the toilet [or toilet bowl] can be located, considering a layout of an apartment or house varies from ?small? to ?big? to ?very big?, depending on the factors such as size of rooms, number of rooms etc ?For Example: If we can consider a circle [with radius ?r?] as the small area with the toilet bowl at center ?o?, then the above illustrated cases of (1), (2), (3), should not be within the area of the small circle with radius ?r?, with the toilet bowl at ?o?. In this case, how can we define ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R), wherein A is the constant factor, we need to know [???, if you can help us], and ?R? is the radius of the circle imposed on a rectangular[or square, etc] layout of the apartment of the house. With the consideration ?D? (Diameter)= 2 *R.And Assumption[Pythagoras Theory]:- If an approximate rectangle of fit is imposed on the apartment/house layout, with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?- Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal (or Diameter of the circle of fit on the layout) =Square root of {( L to the power of 2) + (B to the power of 2)}.Your assistance in indicating what should be the constant factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15 or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be very helpful. Because, from this ?A?, one can calculate ?r?, and can avoid placing location cases such as (1) or (2) or (3) within the taboo circle areas with radius ?r?, from the toilet bowl location point ?o?. ?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.Janna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted February 14, 2003 Staff Share Posted February 14, 2003 Dear Janna,Thanks for sharing with us the methodolgy of trying to determine whether a toilet is in a safe area or not.This is fine. However, to be truly honest; my inclination is or preference would be more for Shapes and Forms (at a glance) to determine whether there is a threat.This is done usually visually by looking at the layout plan.Frankly, I would prefer to use this. For the centrepoint, imagine that this is where the flux is. So long as the toilet is at the centrepoint, this is considered a `hit' or handicap.As long as the toilet is next to the main door, it is also considered bad. Quote factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15or 0.20 or ??? etc], will beHmm.. if we take into consideration a constant, perhaps your formula should also take into account the size of the house/apartment or office. In my opinion, it is difficult to place an exact figure for A. This is because, often the problem is that toilet lies next to the main door. And given this understanding, it is not favourable position.Frankly, I am more of a Shapes and Forms person and often visualise qi flow from one side of the house into the other side. Thanks for sharing with us your method:)Warmest Regards,Cecil Quote On 2/14/2003 8:49:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Cecil,Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TODETERMINE SAFE AREAS FORLOCATING ?TOILET?.Ref: Valuable archive at"WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".It is generally said as arule-set (taboo) in InternalForms Feng Shui, that Toilet[more accurately toilet bowl]should not be located in casessuch as (1) Center of anapartment/house; (2) Near themain door entrance [i.e, inthe foyer area] of anapartment/house and (3) Abovethe bedroom [perhaps the bed]or above the kitchen [perhapsthe stove/oven] or above themain door entrance.In all these cases, is there amathematical formula, tomeasure, the safe distancearea, where the toilet [ortoilet bowl] can be located,considering a layout of anapartment or house varies from?small? to ?big? to ?verybig?, depending on the factorssuch as size of rooms, numberof rooms etc ?For Example: If we canconsider a circle [with radius?r?] as the small area withthe toilet bowl at center ?o?,then the above illustratedcases of (1), (2), (3), shouldnot be within the area of thesmall circle with radius ?r?,with the toilet bowl at ?o?.In this case, how can wedefine ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R),wherein A is the constantfactor, we need to know [???,if you can help us], and ?R?is the radius of the circleimposed on a rectangular[orsquare, etc] layout of theapartment of the house. Withthe consideration ?D?(Diameter)= 2 *R.And Assumption[PythagorasTheory]:- If an approximaterectangle of fit is imposed onthe apartment/house layout,with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?-Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal(or Diameter of the circle offit on the layout) =Squareroot of {( L to the power of2) + (B to the power of 2)}.Your assistance in indicatingwhat should be the constantfactor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15or 0.20 or ??? etc], will bevery helpful. Because, fromthis ?A?, one can calculate?r?, and can avoid placinglocation cases such as (1) or(2) or (3) within the taboocircle areas with radius ?r?,from the toilet bowl locationpoint ?o?.?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.Janna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted February 14, 2003 Staff Share Posted February 14, 2003 Dear Janna,For those who may not be so mathemathically inclined can (in most cases) subdivide a layout plan into 9 equal grids:- If the toilet falls in the middle grid, then this is considered a handicap.However, for the main door, one should still see where the mouth is (main door) in relation to the toilet at the frontage. It is often, the flow of qi from this two (main door with toilet) that brings in sha qi.Frankly, for myself, as Robert and myself view as many as 30 layouts a day, perhaps, it would be easier for us to use visual cues - as this is faster:)Warmest Regards,Cecil Quote On 2/14/2003 10:16:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Janna,Thanks for sharing with us themethodolgy of trying todetermine whether a toilet isin a safe area or not.This is fine. However, to betruly honest; my inclinationis or preference would be morefor Shapes and Forms (at aglance) to determine whetherthere is a threat.This is done usually visuallyby looking at the layout plan.Frankly, I would prefer to usethis. For the centrepoint,imagine that this is where theflux is.So long as the toilet is atthe centrepoint, this isconsidered a `hit' orhandicap.As long as the toilet is nextto the main door, it is alsoconsidered bad.factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15or 0.20 or ??? etc], will beHmm.. if we take intoconsideration a constant,perhaps your formula shouldalso take into account thesize of the house/apartment oroffice.In my opinion, it is difficultto place an exact figure forA. This is because, often theproblem is that toilet liesnext to the main door. Andgiven this understanding, itis not favourable position.Frankly, I am more of a Shapesand Forms person and oftenvisualise qi flow from oneside of the house into theother side.Thanks for sharing with usyour method:)Warmest Regards,Cecil Quote On 2/14/2003 8:49:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Cecil,Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TODETERMINE SAFE AREAS FORLOCATING ?TOILET?.Ref: Valuable archive at"WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".It is generally said as arule-set (taboo) in InternalForms Feng Shui, that Toilet[more accurately toilet bowl]should not be located in casessuch as (1) Center of anapartment/house; (2) Near themain door entrance [i.e, inthe foyer area] of anapartment/house and (3) Abovethe bedroom [perhaps the bed]or above the kitchen [perhapsthe stove/oven] or above themain door entrance.In all these cases, is there amathematical formula, tomeasure, the safe distancearea, where the toilet [ortoilet bowl] can be located,considering a layout of anapartment or house varies from?small? to ?big? to ?verybig?, depending on the factorssuch as size of rooms, numberof rooms etc ?For Example: If we canconsider a circle [with radius?r?] as the small area withthe toilet bowl at center ?o?,then the above illustratedcases of (1), (2), (3), shouldnot be within the area of thesmall circle with radius ?r?,with the toilet bowl at ?o?.In this case, how can wedefine ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R),wherein A is the constantfactor, we need to know [???,if you can help us], and ?R?is the radius of the circleimposed on a rectangular[orsquare, etc] layout of theapartment of the house. Withthe consideration ?D?(Diameter)= 2 *R.And Assumption[PythagorasTheory]:- If an approximaterectangle of fit is imposed onthe apartment/house layout,with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?-Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal(or Diameter of the circle offit on the layout) =Squareroot of {( L to the power of2) + (B to the power of 2)}.Your assistance in indicatingwhat should be the constantfactor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15or 0.20 or ??? etc], will bevery helpful. Because, fromthis ?A?, one can calculate?r?, and can avoid placinglocation cases such as (1) or(2) or (3) within the taboocircle areas with radius ?r?,from the toilet bowl locationpoint ?o?.?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.Janna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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