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Dear Cecil,
Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TO DETERMINE SAFE AREAS FOR LOCATING ?TOILET?.
Ref: Valuable archive at "WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".
It is generally said as a rule-set (taboo) in Internal Forms Feng Shui, that Toilet [more accurately toilet bowl] should not be located in cases such as (1) Center of an apartment/house; (2) Near the main door entrance [i.e, in the foyer area] of an apartment/house and (3) Above the bedroom [perhaps the bed] or above the kitchen [perhaps the stove/oven] or above the main door entrance.
In all these cases, is there a mathematical formula, to measure, the safe distance area, where the toilet [or toilet bowl] can be located, considering a layout of an apartment or house varies from ?small? to ?big? to ?very big?, depending on the factors such as size of rooms, number of rooms etc ?
For Example: If we can consider a circle [with radius ?r?] as the small area with the toilet bowl at center ?o?, then the above illustrated cases of (1), (2), (3), should not be within the area of the small circle with radius ?r?, with the toilet bowl at ?o?. In this case, how can we define ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R), wherein A is the constant factor, we need to know [???, if you can help us], and ?R? is the radius of the circle imposed on a rectangular[or square, etc] layout of the apartment of the house. With the consideration ?D? (Diameter)= 2 *R.
And Assumption[Pythagoras Theory]:- If an approximate rectangle of fit is imposed on the apartment/house layout, with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?- Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal (or Diameter of the circle of fit on the layout) =Square root of {( L to the power of 2) + (B to the power of 2)}.
Your assistance in indicating what should be the constant factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15 or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be very helpful. Because, from this ?A?, one can calculate ?r?, and can avoid placing location cases such as (1) or (2) or (3) within the taboo circle areas with radius ?r?, from the toilet bowl location point ?o?.
?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.
Janna
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Dear Janna,
Thanks for sharing with us the methodolgy of trying to determine whether a toilet is in a safe area or not.
This is fine. However, to be truly honest; my inclination is or preference would be more for Shapes and Forms (at a glance) to determine whether there is a threat.
This is done usually visually by looking at the layout plan.
Frankly, I would prefer to use this. For the centrepoint, imagine that this is where the flux is.
So long as the toilet is at the centrepoint, this is considered a `hit' or handicap.
As long as the toilet is next to the main door, it is also considered bad.

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factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
Hmm.. if we take into consideration a constant, perhaps your formula should also take into account the size of the house/apartment or office.

In my opinion, it is difficult to place an exact figure for A. This is because, often the problem is that toilet lies next to the main door. And given this understanding, it is not favourable position.
Frankly, I am more of a Shapes and Forms person and often visualise qi flow from one side of the house into the other side.
Thanks for sharing with us your method:)
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 2/14/2003 8:49:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Cecil,
Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TO
DETERMINE SAFE AREAS FOR
LOCATING ?TOILET?.
Ref: Valuable archive at
"WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".
It is generally said as a
rule-set (taboo) in Internal
Forms Feng Shui, that Toilet
[more accurately toilet bowl]
should not be located in cases
such as (1) Center of an
apartment/house; (2) Near the
main door entrance [i.e, in
the foyer area] of an
apartment/house and (3) Above
the bedroom [perhaps the bed]
or above the kitchen [perhaps
the stove/oven] or above the
main door entrance.
In all these cases, is there a
mathematical formula, to
measure, the safe distance
area, where the toilet [or
toilet bowl] can be located,
considering a layout of an
apartment or house varies from
?small? to ?big? to ?very
big?, depending on the factors
such as size of rooms, number
of rooms etc ?
For Example: If we can
consider a circle [with radius
?r?] as the small area with
the toilet bowl at center ?o?,
then the above illustrated
cases of (1), (2), (3), should
not be within the area of the
small circle with radius ?r?,
with the toilet bowl at ?o?.
In this case, how can we
define ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R),
wherein A is the constant
factor, we need to know [???,
if you can help us], and ?R?
is the radius of the circle
imposed on a rectangular[or
square, etc] layout of the
apartment of the house. With
the consideration ?D?
(Diameter)= 2 *R.
And Assumption[Pythagoras
Theory]:- If an approximate
rectangle of fit is imposed on
the apartment/house layout,
with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?-
Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal
(or Diameter of the circle of
fit on the layout) =Square
root of {( L to the power of
2) + (B to the power of 2)}.
Your assistance in indicating
what should be the constant
factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
very helpful. Because, from
this ?A?, one can calculate
?r?, and can avoid placing
location cases such as (1) or
(2) or (3) within the taboo
circle areas with radius ?r?,
from the toilet bowl location
point ?o?.
?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.
Janna

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Dear Janna,
For those who may not be so mathemathically inclined can (in most cases) subdivide a layout plan into 9 equal grids:-
If the toilet falls in the middle grid, then this is considered a handicap.
However, for the main door, one should still see where the mouth is (main door) in relation to the toilet at the frontage. It is often, the flow of qi from this two (main door with toilet) that brings in sha qi.
Frankly, for myself, as Robert and myself view as many as 30 layouts a day, perhaps, it would be easier for us to use visual cues - as this is faster:)
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 2/14/2003 10:16:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Janna,
Thanks for sharing with us the
methodolgy of trying to
determine whether a toilet is
in a safe area or not.
This is fine. However, to be
truly honest; my inclination
is or preference would be more
for Shapes and Forms (at a
glance) to determine whether
there is a threat.
This is done usually visually
by looking at the layout plan.
Frankly, I would prefer to use
this. For the centrepoint,
imagine that this is where the
flux is.
So long as the toilet is at
the centrepoint, this is
considered a `hit' or
handicap.
As long as the toilet is next
to the main door, it is also
considered bad.
factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
Hmm.. if we take into
consideration a constant,
perhaps your formula should
also take into account the
size of the house/apartment or
office.
In my opinion, it is difficult
to place an exact figure for
A. This is because, often the
problem is that toilet lies
next to the main door. And
given this understanding, it
is not favourable position.
Frankly, I am more of a Shapes
and Forms person and often
visualise qi flow from one
side of the house into the
other side.
Thanks for sharing with us
your method:)
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 2/14/2003 8:49:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Cecil,
Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TO
DETERMINE SAFE AREAS FOR
LOCATING ?TOILET?.
Ref: Valuable archive at
"WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".
It is generally said as a
rule-set (taboo) in Internal
Forms Feng Shui, that Toilet
[more accurately toilet bowl]
should not be located in cases
such as (1) Center of an
apartment/house; (2) Near the
main door entrance [i.e, in
the foyer area] of an
apartment/house and (3) Above
the bedroom [perhaps the bed]
or above the kitchen [perhaps
the stove/oven] or above the
main door entrance.
In all these cases, is there a
mathematical formula, to
measure, the safe distance
area, where the toilet [or
toilet bowl] can be located,
considering a layout of an
apartment or house varies from
?small? to ?big? to ?very
big?, depending on the factors
such as size of rooms, number
of rooms etc ?
For Example: If we can
consider a circle [with radius
?r?] as the small area with
the toilet bowl at center ?o?,
then the above illustrated
cases of (1), (2), (3), should
not be within the area of the
small circle with radius ?r?,
with the toilet bowl at ?o?.
In this case, how can we
define ?r?, if ?r?=A*(R),
wherein A is the constant
factor, we need to know [???,
if you can help us], and ?R?
is the radius of the circle
imposed on a rectangular[or
square, etc] layout of the
apartment of the house. With
the consideration ?D?
(Diameter)= 2 *R.
And Assumption[Pythagoras
Theory]:- If an approximate
rectangle of fit is imposed on
the apartment/house layout,
with say, ?L? ? Length; ?B?-
Breadth; or ?D? ? Diagonal
(or Diameter of the circle of
fit on the layout) =Square
root of {( L to the power of
2) + (B to the power of 2)}.
Your assistance in indicating
what should be the constant
factor ?A? [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
very helpful. Because, from
this ?A?, one can calculate
?r?, and can avoid placing
location cases such as (1) or
(2) or (3) within the taboo
circle areas with radius ?r?,
from the toilet bowl location
point ?o?.
?MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE?.
Janna



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