Jealousy combination of stems

[myfs_99502]

Dear moderators and members,

Would someone help to figure out if there is a stem transformation in this ba zi :

06/26/1973 21:25h, female
year Gui Chou
month Wu Wu
day Gui Si
hour Gui Hai

Day and year stems Gui both are trying to combine with the husband
element Wu in the month stem. Ding is hidden the month branch.
What will happen? Is it posible to month and year stem to transmorm in
firewhen there is ajealosy combination with DM? If they transform
what is the effect on the already we?k DM? What is the effect of this combination on the married life of the person?
Thank you in advance.

[Robert Lee]

Dear Anon,

Anonymous wrote:
06/26/1973 21:25h, female
year Gui Chou
month Wu Wu
day Gui Si
hour Gui Hai

Day and year stems Gui both are trying to combine with the husband element Wu in the month stem. Ding is hidden the month branch. What will happen? Is it posible to month and year stem to transmorm in firewhen there is ajealosy combination with DM? If they transform what is the effect on the already we?k DM? What is the effect of this combination on the married life of the person?
Thank you in advance.

Generally, usually in such a case where there is two pillars that can combine with one common one. Only 1 will successfully combine if any. Often the closes or more important one will be considered first. ie if between day and month and month and year. Month and Year will first have higher preference for the combination to take place. The one that is missed ie the Day will not combine.

Generally, it whether it is beneficial or not depends on whether a join combines permanently or temporarily. If Join is permanent, then the original properties is loss. If the join is temporarily, than the original properties is retained. So how it affects the overall day, depends on whether the element combines benefit the day or not.

ie weak earth, and the combination converts to Fire, then it will be beneficial.
ie weak metal, and the combination converts to Fire, then it will weaken the Metal.

In any case, one special rule apply. Any combination or join that takes places with the day. The element will be converted to if the join is permanent. However, say if the day is originally wood, and the combination convert it to fire. The birth element will not change from wood to fire. It will remain as Wood, but he will have lost the Wood element property.

One must remember, that although each pillar can be associated with the various relationship ie spouse/parents etc. Such predictions of relationship cannot be properly forecasted unless you compare the ba zi of the two person.

In this case, the day however, will remain unaffected the change, so no real major impact.

Warmest Regards
Robert Lee
GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

[myfs_112237]

Dear Robert,

You say in the below answer:

However, say if the day is originally wood, and the combination convert it to fire. The birth element will not change from wood to fire. It will remain as Wood, but he will have lost the Wood element property.

Could you clarify what it means that the day will remain as Wood, but has lost the Wood element property. This concept is a bit hard to understand. How can Wood loose the Wood element property?

Thank you

Roeland

[Robert Lee]

Dear Roeland,

Roeland de Looff wrote:
However, say if the day is originally wood, and the combination convert it to fire. The birth element will not change from wood to fire. It will remain as Wood, but he will have lost the Wood element property.

Yes, this is only for when the Heavenly Stem of the Day has combination.

Heavenly Stem of the Day will represent what element the birth chart is consisdered. For example if it is like you mentioned Wood, this person is considered born in a Wood element day.

So when there is such a combination, what will happen is in the five element chart, the person will lose 1 wood, and gain 1 fire. However, the person will still be a Wood element not suddenly changed to a Fire element. This is because he is still born in a Wood element day.

Roeland de Looff wrote:
Could you clarify what it means that the day will remain as Wood, but has lost the Wood element property. This concept is a bit hard to understand. How can Wood loose the Wood element property?

So what I mean is his birth element will remain a Wood (even though the day pillar would have loss the wood property due to the combination). However, in his balance of the element, he would have loss 1 wood, and gain 1 fire.

That means that say if the day pillar is the only wood element in the entire chart. That means that he would have 0 wood in his five element. However, he is still a Wood element person. Not a Fire element person. This means he would more likely be a weak wood (if the water percentage isn't a lot).

Hope this explanation makes it clearer.

Warmest Regards
Robert Lee
GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research

[myfs_112237]

Dear Robert,

Thank you for giving this information. This is very clear.

Do you feel that such a transformation of the energy of the daystem can only happen as a result of a transformation with another stemthat is found withinthe chart or can it also happen as a result of a transformation with the stem ofa 10 yearsluck pillar or even a yearly pillar?

Thank you,

Roeland

[Robert Lee]

Dear Roeland,

Roeland de Looff wrote:
Do you feel that such a transformation of the energy of the daystem can only happen as a result of a transformation with another stemthat is found withinthe chart or can it also happen as a result of a transformation with the stem ofa 10 yearsluck pillar or even a yearly pillar?

In general, transformation can take place whether the day pillar combines with another pillar within the chart or with the 10-year luck pillars.

Difference will be transformation in the 10-year luck pillars are not permanent. Meaning it will revert once the luck period change. And the effect will only last for that 10-year luck period. Same goes for the yearly pillar.

Transformation in the main chart, will be more permanent unless it is a transforamtion but not havepermanent change. ie the original element still prevail because the conditions are not right for a permanent transformation.

Hope that helps.

Warmest Regards
Robert Lee
GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research