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Dear Janna,

For those who may not be so mathemathically inclined can (in most cases) subdivide a layout plan into 9 equal grids:-

If the toilet falls in the middle grid, then this is considered a handicap.

However, for the main door, one should still see where the mouth is (main door) in relation to the toilet at the frontage. It is often, the flow of qi from this two (main door with toilet) that brings in sha qi.

Frankly, for myself, as Robert and myself view as many as 30 layouts a day, perhaps, it would be easier for us to use visual cues - as this is faster:)

Warmest Regards,
Cecil

On 2/14/2003 10:16:00 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
>Dear Janna,
>
>Thanks for sharing with us the
>methodolgy of trying to
>determine whether a toilet is
>in a safe area or not.
>
>This is fine. However, to be
>truly honest; my inclination
>is or preference would be more
>for Shapes and Forms (at a
>glance) to determine whether
>there is a threat.
>
>This is done usually visually
>by looking at the layout plan.
>
>Frankly, I would prefer to use
>this. For the centrepoint,
>imagine that this is where the
>flux is.
>
>So long as the toilet is at
>the centrepoint, this is
>considered a `hit' or
>handicap.
>
>As long as the toilet is next
>to the main door, it is also
>considered bad.
>
>>factor “A” [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
>>or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
>
>Hmm.. if we take into
>consideration a constant,
>perhaps your formula should
>also take into account the
>size of the house/apartment or
>office.
>
>In my opinion, it is difficult
>to place an exact figure for
>A. This is because, often the
>problem is that toilet lies
>next to the main door. And
>given this understanding, it
>is not favourable position.
>
>Frankly, I am more of a Shapes
>and Forms person and often
>visualise qi flow from one
>side of the house into the
>other side.
>
>Thanks for sharing with us
>your method:)
>
>Warmest Regards,
>Cecil
>
>On 2/14/2003 8:49:00 AM, Janna R wrote:
>>Dear Cecil,
>>
>>Sub: SEEKING FORMULA TO
>>DETERMINE SAFE AREAS FOR
>>LOCATING “TOILET”.
>>Ref: Valuable archive at
>>"WWW.GEOMANCY.NET".
>>
>>It is generally said as a
>>rule-set (taboo) in Internal
>>Forms Feng Shui, that Toilet
>>[more accurately toilet bowl]
>>should not be located in cases
>>such as (1) Center of an
>>apartment/house; (2) Near the
>>main door entrance [i.e, in
>>the foyer area] of an
>>apartment/house and (3) Above
>>the bedroom [perhaps the bed]
>>or above the kitchen [perhaps
>>the stove/oven] or above the
>>main door entrance.
>>In all these cases, is there a
>>mathematical formula, to
>>measure, the safe distance
>>area, where the toilet [or
>>toilet bowl] can be located,
>>considering a layout of an
>>apartment or house varies from
>>“small’ to “big” to “very
>>big”, depending on the factors
>>such as size of rooms, number
>>of rooms etc ?
>>
>>For Example: If we can
>>consider a circle [with radius
>>“r”] as the small area with
>>the toilet bowl at center “o”,
>>then the above illustrated
>>cases of (1), (2), (3), should
>>not be within the area of the
>>small circle with radius “r”,
>>with the toilet bowl at “o”.
>>In this case, how can we
>>define “r”, if “r”=A*(R),
>>wherein A is the constant
>>factor, we need to know [???,
>>if you can help us], and “R”
>>is the radius of the circle
>>imposed on a rectangular[or
>>square, etc] layout of the
>>apartment of the house. With
>>the consideration “D”
>>(Diameter)= 2 *R.
>>And Assumption[Pythagoras
>>Theory]:- If an approximate
>>rectangle of fit is imposed on
>>the apartment/house layout,
>>with say, “L” – Length; “B”-
>>Breadth; or “D” – Diagonal
>>(or Diameter of the circle of
>>fit on the layout) =Square
>>root of {( L to the power of
>>2) + (B to the power of 2)}.
>>
>>
>>Your assistance in indicating
>>what should be the constant
>>factor “A” [i.e A=0.10 or 0.15
>>or 0.20 or ??? etc], will be
>>very helpful. Because, from
>>this “A”, one can calculate
>>“r”, and can avoid placing
>>location cases such as (1) or
>>(2) or (3) within the taboo
>>circle areas with radius “r”,
>>from the toilet bowl location
>>point “o”.
>>
>>“MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE”.
>>
>>Janna
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